Setting Up A 'Temperate' Pond

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Offline Sue

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2018, 04:18:10 PM »
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There is another benefit to having gravel on the bottom - it will be home to a whole host of micro-organisms that are of benefit to a tank/pond.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2018, 12:00:33 PM »
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Currently there are a few rocks on the bottom covered in Java Moss and one with an Anubias attached. The rest of the base is just the black liner. I Think the gravel would improve the visual look of the pond and the fish may be happier in more ‘natural’ surroundings.

Gravel sounds like a good move then  :)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2018, 01:21:07 PM »
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Yep, I am going to go with the gravel. I have also ordered a few aquatic planters, liner and aquatic soil.
I will probably get a few Aponotegen Henkelianus for the planters they grow to about 40cm and will be OK with the temperature. I was also thinking about Hornwort as a stem plant.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2018, 01:41:03 PM »
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Only thing with homework is that it can loose its needle like leaves quite easily which normally would need vacuuming up to prevent them rotting in the tank.  Do you think this will be practical in your pond setup?

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2018, 01:41:52 PM »
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The aponogeton helenkus have lovely leaves, they'll look fantastic.  8)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2018, 02:45:40 PM »
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Only thing with homework is that it can loose its needle like leaves quite easily which normally would need vacuuming up to prevent them rotting in the tank.  Do you think this will be practical in your pond setup?

I assume that's meant to be hornwort  :rotfl:

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2018, 03:09:47 PM »
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I hadn't noticed that @Sue
I read it as hornwort  :rotfl:

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2018, 04:28:21 PM »
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I’ll try the Hornwort.If it is a problem I’ll ditch it and have a rethink.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2018, 06:13:40 PM »
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I've added homework, I mean hornwort ;), to my tank recently. I like it and the way it drapes - a lovely canopy effect - but is a downside: the fish food gets trapped in it, so I have to give it a prodding post-mealtimes to release the food particles caught up in it.

[Message edited. I had thought there was a second downside but, having re-investigated just to be sure, I realise I was wrong and so have reneged the second downside I had mentioned.]


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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2018, 10:20:02 PM »
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I assume that's meant to be hornwort  :rotfl:

Arggghhh, auto correct is really not set up for fish keeping chat, I get all sorts of rubbish and normally spot it and correct it, that one has slipped through the net...

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2018, 11:19:44 PM »
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I recently purchased a couple of bags of river pebbles from a local hardware store. They were classified as suitable for aquatic use. 1 bag has been washed and spread out over half of the base of the pond. I can actually see the fish now without too much difficulty. The other half will be completed in a couple of days.
The Aponotogen Henkelianus (4 bulbs) have been planted in a basket. I have used Westland aquatic soil for this purpose. I have also got 1 sprig of hornwort and placed this in the same planter temporarily until I put another one in place. The planters are 23  x 23 x 13 so I would imagine 1 would be OK for the 4 Aponogeton bulbs. I can always relocate a couple of bulbs at a later date.
I am going to place the rocks covered in Java Moss next to the planters hoping that the moss will creep over the exterior mesh to disguise it.
I am also considering cutting a hole in the side of one of the planters and upturning it to create a ‘cave’. I have some small Java Fern plantlets and a Anubias to attach to the mesh. These should eventually cover it.
The Java Moss is growing profusely so I would imagine it will start spreading across the pebbles as well.
I have also added a dozen Amano Shrimp to assist with Algae removal.
I would also like to add some more fish. I’m thinking either Golden Barbs or Odessa Barbs (perhaps both).
Stocking would be 12 x Golden or 6 x Golden + 6 x Odessa.
I think these would complement the Shiners and WCMMs.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2018, 11:35:17 PM »
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Sounds like it's coming along nicely Dave...   :)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2018, 04:37:12 AM »
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That sounds absolutely brilliant   ;D

I would never have thought about keeping shrimp outdoors, though of course you can with your heated system. Like the idea of how you're doing the planting, including the cave idea... or could it be part of a raised area of the pond I wonder???

Must be great being able to see the fish more now... I cam imagine you wanting to get fish which look different from above... something most of us never have to think about!

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2018, 07:31:24 AM »
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Sounds great.  8)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2018, 11:31:12 PM »
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Couple of pics of the bottom of the pond with the river pebbles in place. The Java Moss attached to the rocks look almost 'fern like' from above.  You can also see the top of the hornwort which has now reached the surface. It must be growing about 4" a day. The Aponotogen bulbs have also started sprouting leaves.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2018, 08:01:35 AM »
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I like it with the pebbles.  8)
Great to hear that the plants are growing well, and I hope that your fish are enjoying their new additions.  :)

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2018, 12:07:39 PM »
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Great pics Dave... 

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2018, 12:27:23 PM »
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Wandered in to my LFS today and they had some ‘Metallic’ golden barbs. Came home with 8 for the pond. They are now swimming happily around with the Shiners.
At least now if someone asks if there are any ‘gold’ fish in the pond I can say yes.

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2018, 12:30:22 PM »
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I can't fault your logic @daveyng   ;D

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Re: Setting up a 'Temperate' Pond
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2018, 06:17:57 PM »
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Great plan/addition, @daveyng  :fishy1:

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