Setting Up A River Tank - Littlefish

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2017, 10:54:13 PM »
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New fishies, yay!  <º))><

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #81 on: August 07, 2017, 12:39:49 PM »
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I imagine that the combination of daylight, tank lights, and a front glass covered in biofilm to encourage the fish to the front, doesn't make for the best pictures, and I certainly can't catch the iridescence on the shiners, but the gang are settling in.
I'm guessing I'll have to clean the front glass to get better pictures, but I think I'll leave it for a few days to take the opportunity to feed on it.  :fishy1:

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2017, 07:12:20 PM »
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I'm guessing I'll have to clean the front glass to get better pictures, but I think I'll leave it for a few days to take the opportunity to feed on it.  :fishy1:
I know you're right "in there" with all your aquatic inhabitants but I'm getting a little concerned that you eating algae from the inside of the tank is a step (or should I say a tail swish?) too far.  ;)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2017, 08:45:45 PM »
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 :rotfl:

What can I say, I like to make sure that their environment is suitable.  :))

It's been a good day and I'm finding out a lot more about what the new arrivals like. The rainbow shiners have been fine with flake, are quite active, and seem to be quite happy with the open swimming space in the tank.
After spending more than a month to grow algea on rocks, I have found that the hillstream loaches and stiphodons seem to prefer the very green stuff that settles on the rocks after just a couple of days in the algea tank, rather than the more stubborn algae on the older rocks. Unfortunately the very green alage doesn't last long, and they have stripped all the rocks I put in today. The loaches have a reputation for being quite sensitive, not travelling well on import, and being undernourished. This was why I spent so much time trying to grow algae. Luckily the people at Kesgrave Tropicals had got the fish feeding on algae wafers, and put a wafer in the tank to show me that the fish were feeding well. It looks as if the loaches now have quite a taste for wafers because I dropped one in the tank this evening and it was chaos. The wafer took ages to sink due to the water flow, then it landed in a corner but the river manifold intakes, and got wedged between some pebbles. The loaches then all tried to fit into the corner at the same time to get to the wafer. I tried to take a pic, but they are still quite nervous about me getting close to them with the laptop.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2017, 09:03:21 PM »
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I feed algae wafers to my stiphodons. I discovered that the dominant male chased the others away from it, so I now break it up into small pieces, soak it till the bits sink then use a pipette to squirt the bits at various points around the tank. If you tried this you'd have to use something a bit longer than a pipette though as the water flow would carry the bits away worse than a whole one.


I had never heard of annieae gobies so I googled them. They are gorgeous. If I'd been able to source them locally, I would have gone for them instead of the "indigo blues"

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #85 on: August 07, 2017, 10:23:05 PM »
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I'd never heard of annieae gobies before either, but they got some in at MA and one of the boys told me about them. After I'd found out a bit more I decided to get them for the river tank. They are quite small, so now I'm not sure about putting them in the river tank, but they are doing well in their current tank, so plenty of time to decide.
Good idea about the algae wafers. I'm also going to try the Repashy food coated onto stones, and possibly also use the Repashy as glue to attach algae wafers to pebbles to weigh them down.
It seems to me that however much research & planning I think I've done for a tank, there is always a lot more to learn when the tank is set up and I see how the fish are using it.  ::)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2017, 07:23:26 PM »
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The plants in the slightly sheltered parts of the tank are doing ok, and two of the bucephalandra have got flower buds, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they look like.

I noticed a flower bud on my bucephalandra maia as well this afternoon. I will show my ignorance and say I had no idea they flowered  :o

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2017, 08:17:59 PM »
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I noticed a flower bud on my bucephalandra maia as well this afternoon. I will show my ignorance and say I had no idea they flowered  :o

You and me both Sue.  ;D

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2017, 08:30:16 PM »
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I'm struggling to get pics of the rainbow shiners. They are certainly very wary of phones, tablets, etc.
I still haven't cleaned the front glass either.  ::)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2017, 06:28:51 PM »
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The gang are settling in. There is a little patch of sunlight on one part of the tank, which helps with growing algae.
The loaches are fighting over the best stones.
I can't explain what the rainbow shiners look like. In real life the colours are amazing, but when I take pictures they just look like a snazzy black neon tetra. Possibly because of the iridescence, but the colours only really show well in movement. I've only taken pics with the laptop, which isn't great, but it's as good as it gets for now.  ;D

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2017, 06:30:21 PM »
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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #91 on: August 15, 2017, 06:01:37 PM »
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Got a few more rocks for the river tank today. Just some minor rearranging to do (move an air stone and add some pebbles) and I think it's done. Phew, it's been quite hard work, but totally worth it to get a suitable environment for the sewellia lineolata, and to see the other fish playing in the flow.  :)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #92 on: August 15, 2017, 06:34:20 PM »
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Regardless of the amount of time I spent growing algae on rocks in tanks on the windowsill, and however murky I leave the front glass rather than cleaning it, the loaches still stop squabbling over rocks to enjoy an algae wafer.
Not exactly what I expected considering what I'd read about them being difficult to feed after import, etc. but also very handy to know that they won't go without when I eventually add the panda garra and bulldog plecs.
I don't know how long these fish had been at Kesgrave Tropicals, but the people there did drop a wafer into the tank to show me that they were feeding well, which was a nice touch.
Perhaps this week I'll go wild, clean the front glass, and take some pictures to post here and perhaps send to Kesgrave as well.
The shiners go nuts for flake, and frozen daphnia. I've not tried themon anything else yet.
The gobies seem most happy eating biofilm & algae off the glass & rocks. Another reason for not cleaning the front glass is because it's so entertaining to see their little mouths going like the clappers as they feed.  :)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #93 on: August 15, 2017, 07:01:40 PM »
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These updates on progress are great. This is exemplary of how fishkeeping should be ie lots of research in advance, preparing the tank(s) in line with the species' requirements, and then enjoying them thrive (in the fruits of your labour). It upsets me when I overhear folk in a LFS talking as though they're in a pick'n'mix sweet shop and seem to want to just purchase then and there whatever takes their fancy. Keep up the good work, Littlefish, and your tank inhabitants will continue to thrive accordingly.  :fishy1:

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #94 on: August 15, 2017, 08:34:56 PM »
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Holy crap, no...... Although I don't have any experience with the sewellia lineolata, I have read as much as I could before getting them, and expected the males to fight as shown in a previous picture (stomach to stomach, almost on end). I can only say that I have just witnessed what I can only describe as quite rough behaviour but  "obviously not fighting" between a male and female. Luckily it was rudely interrupted by another male, but all I can say now is "please, no more, I can't cope". I am going to have to give all tanks a stern talking to on the grounds I can't be dealing with any hanky panky until I've dealt with the current batch of BN and dwarf puffer babies. I can't move for quarantine and baby tanks. Seriously.

@fcmf many thanks for being so kind about my progress. I enjoy researching requirements and setting up tanks. However, I feel I need to point out that I still can't be trusted at an LFS...I may not buy something straight away (apart from the betta), and I may make the effort to research & check with you guys here, but at the end of the day my sweet shop mentality is what has caused the purchase of so many tanks. That and living on my own, so not having anyone to tell me "no".  :D

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2017, 08:51:11 PM »
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I moved the airlines today, and added some more pebbles.
Apart from putting the hood on the tank (waiting for help with that), then adding the other fish at the end of their quarantine period, it's pretty much done.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #96 on: August 18, 2017, 06:29:37 PM »
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And it looks good. :)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #97 on: August 18, 2017, 08:20:22 PM »
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Thanks, and I'm enjoying watching the antics within the tank.  :)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2017, 09:43:33 PM »
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Congrats! [ What on earth are you feeding your fish for them all to be so virile?! Viagra fish flakes/pellets?  :rotfl: ]

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #99 on: August 19, 2017, 01:34:08 PM »
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@fcmf I have no idea, but if I knew I'd certainly stop.  :rotfl:

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