Setting Up A River Tank - Littlefish

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Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« on: May 22, 2017, 11:43:43 AM »
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Today is the day that I have actually started the tank that is suitable for the fish that I fell for over a year ago - Sewellia lineolata.
When I got my first temperate tank(s) with zebra danios and v. platies I started looking at other fish, and when I saw a picture of that particular hillstream loach (picture below) my mind was made up. I spent a lot of time researching requirements, and getting distracted by my multiple tank syndrome, but  last Christmas I had a tank delivered that I set aside for the project.
Over the past few weeks I've been buying bits and pieces, plastic tubing, a pump, etc. and this morning I made a start on the river tank manifold.
As you can see, I'm a bit of a girl when it comes to this sort of thing, and I work on a towel on the floor in the living room, rather than a workshop or shed, but at least I'm getting stuff done.
Just stopping for a coffee, and to give the silicone on the base of the manifold a bit of time to start drying, then it's time to carry on with making the in and outflow sections.  :)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2017, 02:24:40 PM »
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Those are lovely tanks, I have serious tank envy!

What's going in the other one?

I also had to hit YouTube to see what the pipes are going to become,  Looks like its going to be awesome once finished.  :afro

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 02:41:02 PM »
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The tank on the right is for the river tank.
The tank on the left houses my 6 mature male axolotls. They were one of the many distractions.  ;D

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2017, 02:52:47 PM »
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Ah.  Thought they were both currently empty since I completely failed to notice the Christmas decorations!  :-[

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2017, 04:54:40 PM »
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Nice, I've seen this kind of river setup in videos.  Hillstream loaches are perfect for it.  Will you be putting other fish in or packing it with those ones?

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2017, 08:07:55 PM »
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I will be putting other fish in, there are quite a few fish that like cooler conditions and fast moving water, as long as there is not a strict adherence to a biotope. I'm thinking along the lines of giant danios, freshwater gobies, and  shiners, but the main star will be the loaches.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2017, 09:48:44 PM »
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All nice choices. :D  I'm particularly keen to see some shiners.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2017, 10:14:20 PM »
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I only saw those fish recently, when visiting an LFS that had blue shiners. They looked really good, and they were in a cooler set up, so I had a chat with the staff to see if they were suitable, then did some research when I got home. I haven't finalised my fish list yet, so who knows what could happen.
I've already started to get some plants suitable for the river tank, and have some bucephalandra "wavy green" in my plant storage tank. I had another trip to Aquarium Gardens last week, and had a chat with the owner. He showed me some bucephalandra, the same size and shape as the ones I had, but a sort of dark almost purple colour, so I had to buy them. I've also been collecting large pieces of wood and large smooth rocks for months, so at least when I've finished the river manifold I'm ready to start setting up the tank. I'm very excited.  ;D

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 08:09:38 PM »
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I've done some more work on the river manifold tonight. I can honestly say that I have not improved my skills with either super glue or silicone.   :-[
Leaving the pipe work to dry and will try putting it in the tank tomorrow.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2017, 06:32:02 AM »
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@Littlefish I'm not sure if it too late but I can see a simpler plumbing method the would increase flow and reduce the visible pipe and power heads in the tank If you are still flexible I could sketch it, just ask.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2017, 05:36:32 PM »
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@Andy the minion thanks for the offer, but I've just put the manifold in the tank, with the assistance of my ever present helpers - brute force & ignorance.
I ended up buying a dry pump, so I have hose going from the manifold, rather than having the pump heads attached to the pipes. I have some large pieces of wood with which I hope to be able to hide the hose in the corner of the tank.
Most of the pipework on the manifold will be hidden by the sand & rocks, which should also help to hold it in place.
If the whole thing explodes the first time I turn it on I'll be in touch immediately for your sketch of a simpler plumbing method.
I still need to add the filter sponge to the uprights on the left, and will pick that up during my trip to collect the live food from the LFS tomorrow.
Phew, this is quite hard work.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2017, 07:07:18 PM »
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@Littlefish Yes it looked like you were making good progress. Have you considered a Hamberg filter for the intake end?

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2017, 07:36:06 PM »
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@Andy the minion I had to look that up  :-[
The particular LFS I go to on Fridays have a substantial pond section, so I was hoping to pick up some suitable sponge tomorrow. I'll also be using an FX4 external filter in the tank, so the sponge on the manifold intake is just to stop bits going into the manifold and into the pump.
You are very technical/engineering minded, whereas I'm currently just bumbling along having a go at recreating what I've seen on other sites. I am slightly concerned that the whole lot will explode when I switch it on, but it's all part of the learning curve. At some point on the weekend expect to see pictures of the whole lot in pieces.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2017, 08:03:59 PM »
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@Littlefish Relax, it'll be fine.....there is nothing to blow. Well apart from the lethally high voltage and current, large quantities of water and a little fish dangling by her toes into the tank from the top of a rickety ladder..... Oh I think I might just give the HSE a quick call, be right back.
No really it will be fine, so long as you don't monkey with the wires the only risk is a leak from the FX4 and you have done one of those before.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2017, 10:00:15 PM »
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All the electrics should be fine, and I've got an FX4 running on the axolotl tank, so I should be ok setting that up. Regardless of the amount of super glue & silicone I've used, I'm still expecting the water pressure to break the manifold, so it should be quite exciting when I switch things on.
I have my usual safety precautions already in place - letting a friend know that if I don't email or text them by a certain time then it may be worth some minor panic, so I may have to extend that to getting them to come over with plenty of towels and a wet/dry vac to help me clear up the mess.  ::)

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2017, 05:21:50 PM »
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I was reading about river tanks the other day and remembered this thread.

How's the tank getting on now?

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2017, 10:06:51 PM »
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It's still a work in progress, but nearly done.
It's currently cycling while I grow more algae on the remaining rocks in a tank on the windowsill.
The river manifold isn't running while I cycle, mainly to give some of the plants a chance to root well enough not to get swept away later. The flow at the back of the tank won't be quite as strong as the rest of the tank, so I'm hoping that everything will be ok. If not, then I'll just take all the plants out and put more wood & rocks in.
I've got 2 sets of bright lights on the tank to help with algae growth.
My biggest problem now is narrowing down the final list of fish.  ;D

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2017, 10:56:54 PM »
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Wow, looking epic.

That background is amazing... Wait ??? Is that an Otto I can see....

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2017, 07:01:57 AM »
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Lol took me a while to spot the Otto... wasn't looking for that!

Tank looks great Littlefish, have you tested the manifold?
It will look brilliant when the rocks are added.

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Re: Setting up a river tank - Littlefish
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2017, 09:02:20 AM »
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I've only just found the oto as well. I remember Littlefish fooling us with that stick-on-the-outside oto when she bought it  ;D

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