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Offline Darren_lines

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My Aquariums
« on: March 13, 2016, 10:13:02 PM »
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I thought I'd share a few of my aquariums, seeing as I'm the new boy  ;D

2' Planted Tropical

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Apologies for the Video, I don't have any recent photos, and this was taken today after a quick water change.

This tank is in a sorry state and I'm planning on a major overhaul fairly soon. It was my first (of 3) attempt at a low-tech, Walstad, planted system, but it has a huge problem with cyanobacteria. I'm 99% sure it's due to the substrate, which was recommended by a few guides (John Innes No.3) however, every tank that I've used that as the substrate has massive Cyano issues. I'll be stripping the tank completely and using either Dennerle aquascaper soil or Tropica Soil Substrate. I'll also be installing an external filter and using CO2 injection, as well as planting much more heavily.

Bedroom nano reef

Another aquarium that's kind of in limbo at the moment, as I will be moving it into my 200l aquarium once my 6' aquarium is up and running. I'm keeping the levels correct, which is fairly easy as the tank is pretty much a few corels and clean-up crew. The new tank will be much bigger, so I can fit a skimmer and keep more inhabitants.

Living room 200l tropical

This is my current big tropical tank. Most of the inhabitants will be moving over to the 6' tank when it's up and running (with the exception of the large Synodontis and Plecostomus, who will be re-homed as they're too destructive for plants). This tank will then become marine.

Living room 6' Planted Tropical

This is my latest project, a 6'(w) x 24"(h) x 18"(d) Seabray aquarium. When finished it will be a planted tropical aquarium with a sump based filter. Everything other than the aquarium and the main tank of the sump will be DIY. So far I've built the frame, added the panelling (needs adjusting slightly), and built the hood including the mounting rails for the main lighting. The display tank will have a syphon overflow system to take the water down to the sump, where it will pass through a filter sponge, fluidised bed, and reverse lit refugium, before entering the return compartment, where the heaters will keep the temperature maintained and the return pump will get the clean water back up to the display tank.

On top of all this, it will be running a constant water-change system. Water from the house cold supply will pass through 2 sediment filters, a carbon filter, and possibly a nitrate filter, before being split, semi-passing through a DI filter, before rejoining and heading to the tank. The idea of all the filters and the split DI is so that I can feed the fresh water into the tank, free of chlorine and at a set TDS so that I could keep shrimp if I choose to. The fresh water will drip into the display tank at a rate at around 20% total volume a week. In the sump's return section, there is an overflow pipe that keeps the total volume of water consistent by losing the same amount of (old) water as the amount that's dripped in to the top.

There's a lot going on with this tank, so I'm building a page for it, which I need to update  :vcross: http://www.darrenlines.uk/6-foot-aquarium.php

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 10:51:07 PM »
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Nice. I'll be following your progress on the six footer.  :wave:

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2016, 07:10:37 AM »
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John Innes No. 3 is the wrong substrate to use for a Walstad type tank. It is intended for the long term maintenance of plants in pots and therefore has very high fertiliser levels, much too high for an aquarium. If you want to use compost then it should be JI No.1 or JI Seed which have much lower levels of fertiliser. It's much easier, and cheaper, to use garden soil which I have in all of my tanks and has never caused any problems. However, people seem to have groundless fears that soil is going to contain some terrible pollutants, why they think this I have no idea, unless you have sprayed a persistent herbicide recently there's no reason not to use it.

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2016, 07:22:28 AM »
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Wow, amazing tanks.  8)
I really like the nano reef.
I will look forward to more pictures as your tanks progress.

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2016, 08:06:13 AM »
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Wow, amazing tanks.  8)
I really like the nano reef.
I will look forward to more pictures as your tanks progress.

+1, your tanks are awesome Darren, looking forward to seeing your updates.

I am slightly concerned about this new info on John Innes No3 though. On the advice I gained on the forum I have built my new Aquarium with a 2cm compost and 3cm gravel substrate... Am I going to encounter problems?? What can be done to prevent or control this cyanobacteria?

Last question... What is a walstad tank?  :-[

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2016, 08:29:49 AM »
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Nice. I'll be following your progress on the six footer.  :wave:
Thanks, it's been a work in progress for a few years, but I'm determined to get it running this year, preferably before the end of summer.

John Innes No. 3 is the wrong substrate to use for a Walstad type tank. It is intended for the long term maintenance of plants in pots and therefore has very high fertiliser levels, much too high for an aquarium. If you want to use compost then it should be JI No.1 or JI Seed which have much lower levels of fertiliser. It's much easier, and cheaper, to use garden soil which I have in all of my tanks and has never caused any problems. However, people seem to have groundless fears that soil is going to contain some terrible pollutants, why they think this I have no idea, unless you have sprayed a persistent herbicide recently there's no reason not to use it.
Well at least that kind of confirms my theory that it's the soil causing the Cyano. With all those nutrients it's bound to bloom. I think when I re-do my bedroom tank I'll still use the proper aquascaping soil, however I may re-do my 2' tank at work with JI No.1 (it suffers from the same Cyano issue, also has No.3). That way I have 2 test tanks as whichever one works better, I'll use in my 6' tank. The annoying thing was I put loads of research into this and the recommended soil was still wrong. Wish I'd found this place sooner. Thanks Richard :)

Wow, amazing tanks.  8)
I really like the nano reef.
I will look forward to more pictures as your tanks progress.
Thanks, it's nothing special at the moment, mainly due to it being so hard to keep anything in a 12' cube, let alone marines. Having said that, the toadstool is really liking it. It'll be much better when it moves to the 200l :)

+1, your tanks are awesome Darren, looking forward to seeing your updates.

I am slightly concerned about this new info on John Innes No3 though. On the advice I gained on the forum I have built my new Aquarium with a 2cm compost and 3cm gravel substrate... Am I going to encounter problems?? What can be done to prevent or control this cyanobacteria?

Last question... What is a walstad tank?  :-[
Thanks Paddy. There will be some big changes soon :)

Cyano is a nightmare, the only things that help are more flow and lowering the light level. The problem is it's a bacteria, so unless you get rid of all of it, it only takes a tiny amount for it to bloom. I managed to get mine down to acceptable levels, but the light was so low the plants weren't getting enough of it. The only other thing that may work it so really heavily plant the aquarium so that the plants use all the nutrients. Either way, I'm convinced No.3 is a no-no.

The Walstad method is basically a low-tech (no CO2 or bright lighting) planted aquarium with a dirt substrate, created by Diana Walstad. The theory is the fish waste fertilizes the substrate to feed the plants, which consume the nitrates and provides a nicely balanced eco-system. There are lots of people who have made this work and well worth reading up on :)

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2016, 08:39:06 AM »
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My external filter has an optimal flow of 850litres/hour and a max of 1250. I intend on keeping live plants so will maintain a healthy amount of vegetation.

With my tank in the final stages of a fishless cycle this is not the best news to hear but I suppose it's better I can prepare for what may be coming down the tracks...

What are the effects of the cyanobacteria and how do I test for it/identify when it is present? Sorry for all the questions.

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2016, 08:49:51 AM »
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Sorry to "interrupt" the discussion on soil, etc, but just to say that the tanks and plans look great, Darren. Very envious of the long tank; looking forward to reading how they progress and what fish you ultimately have in each tank.

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 09:08:05 AM »
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Everywhere you go the advice is that John Innes No 3 is the correct soil for this method.
I know several people using it with no problem, so it's not 'the wrong' soil for everyone.

Having spoken to people that use it, and read up on its use on UKAPS amongst other places it would be my first choice. I'd want maximum nutrition for the plants to benefit from.

I don't have soil (wish I knew about this method before I set up) but I did get an outbreak of Cyanobacteria. It's fairly common in establishing setups.

Having researched it when I had my outbreak I found no mention of an excess of nutrients to be a cause.

The most common explanations are:

  • Cyanobacteria organism introduced to the tank
  • Excess Light
  • High levels of organic wastes
  • Anaerobic conditions

Now, if the substrate cap was insufficient, and the John Innes No 3 was leeching nutrients into the water column, that may have an impact on a Cyano bloom.
However that could just as easily occur with John Innes No 1.
The substrate cap is there to stop leeching and keep the nutrients at root level.


I used EasyLife Blue Exit and it cleared up in one course of treatment.
I also added three Stiphodons which are reputed to eat Cyanobacteria, and it's never since reappeared.

A Selection of Fish in my Fish Community Creator Tanks
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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 09:34:10 AM »
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Everywhere you go the advice is that John Innes No 3 is the correct soil for this method.
I know several people using it with no problem, so it's not 'the wrong' soil for everyone.

Having spoken to people that use it, and read up on its use on UKAPS amongst other places it would be my first choice. I'd want maximum nutrition for the plants to benefit from.

I don't have soil (wish I knew about this method before I set up) but I did get an outbreak of Cyanobacteria. It's fairly common in establishing setups.

Having researched it when I had my outbreak I found no mention of an excess of nutrients to be a cause.

The most common explanations are:

  • Cyanobacteria organism introduced to the tank
  • Excess Light
  • High levels of organic wastes
  • Anaerobic conditions

Now, if the substrate cap was insufficient, and the John Innes No 3 was leeching nutrients into the water column, that may have an impact on a Cyano bloom.
However that could just as easily occur with John Innes No 1.
The substrate cap is there to stop leeching and keep the nutrients at root level.


I used EasyLife Blue Exit and it cleared up in one course of treatment.
I also added three Stiphodons which are reputed to eat Cyanobacteria, and it's never since reappeared.
Thanks for the info. Just ordered some Blue Exit to try, see what happens :)

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2016, 09:37:23 AM »
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The problem with JI 3 is that the nutrients are likely to leach out into the water before there are enough plants to use it, hence the cyanobacteria get to use it in stead. If you have a very heavily planted tank, such as aquascapers have, it would be more likely to be OK. JI composts also contain ground limestone, which may be an issue (good or bad) in some cases. In addition, it includes peat which will eventually break down which might be a problem in the long term, e.g. if you hope your tank will not need redoing for several years.I'd recommend floating plants to compete with the cyanobacteria at first, although they don't do well if you have a high flow rate across the surface. 2 cms is quite a small depth of compost so may not cause problems anyway, the total volume of compost will be quite small compared to the water, I have 5 cms of soil in mine.

The Walstad method comes from a book called "The ecology of the planted aquarium" which is a very detailed look at the relationship between plants and fish in an aquarium. Unlike so much personal opinion expressed on the internet everything is backed up by proper scientific research results, all referenced fully by Walstad. You need a decent understanding of chemistry and biology to follow her logic.

Here are a few of the more interesting quotes from the book :

"Hobbyists can protect fish from toxins by hard work, e.g., frequent water changes, gravel vacuuming, and enhanced filtration. However, given a chance, plants can purify the water naturally and effortlessly for the aquarium hobbyist. In my opinion, the ability of plants to purify aquarium water and protect fish has been woefully underestimated.

…..... there is little to be gained from restricting the nutrient levels in the aquarium by underfeeding fish, changing water frequently, and cleaning gravel, but then adding it all back as plant fertilizers.
(Sounds like a lot of work to me.)

Frequent water changes should be unnecessary in well-established tanks. I change about 25 to 50% of the water every 3-6 months.

Gravel cleaning is detrimental in planted aquariums, because it prevents nutrient replenishment of the substrate.

Tanks with a soil layer and healthy plants will remove ammonia naturally, so bio-filters are unnecessary and possibly counter-productive.

Artificial fertilization with CO2, trace elements, and macronutrients is unnecessary if the tank contains a fertile substrate, the fish are fed well, and nutrients are not removed by over-zealous tank cleaning................... Despite warnings in the hobbyist literature, I always feed my fish well plus a little extra for the plants.

Having a ‘dirty’ aquarium that will support good plant growth requires a leap of faith. The hobbyist must believe that plants can help purify the aquarium.

Using soil in aquariums is a strong ideological barrier for many aquarium hobbyists. Here, I mean soils that ordinary gardeners grow plants in— garden soil (i.e., topsoil) or potting soil.

Although snails are frequently disparaged by aquarium hobbyists, they do not eat plants and are actually quite useful. Snails clean plant leaves of debris, algae, and bacteria. They speed decomposition, so that nutrients recycle more quickly to plants. Malaysian Trumpet snails tunnel into the substrate, thereby aerating the substrate. …. I keep snails in all my aquariums."

I set all of my tanks up with this method and have had no problems (including no cyanobacteria). The only exception is that she says that filters aren't necessary, while I use them as normal, mainly because my tanks are quite heavily stocked. I rarely change water or vacuum the gravel, fish are all healthy.

If you enjoy fiddling with your tank, adding one drop of this and two of that, 25% water change every week, then this is not the method for you. There is no one correct way to manage an aquarium but many (although there are also many wrong ways!!).


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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 11:49:48 AM »
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Excellent post Richard. It has really set me thinking. Having had 40 years away from tropical fishkeeping, I am currently operating 3 tanks on the method of frequent w/c's, adding a drop or two of this and that, etc., etc..

But when I think back to 40 years ago, it was so different. I know that the fish we had then were a lot hardier than they are today, but:

No filter
Very heavily planted with vallis and crypts. Dozens given away.
W/c as and when the mulm was so deep that I couldn't see the gravel
No test kit
No understanding of hard/soft water - well, I didn't anyway!
No dechlorinator
Very few fish losses
Opaline gouramis and all livebearers bred so easily, and dozens were given away.
Tilapia mouthbrooders in the four foot - and what a pain they were!

I may well be wrong here, but I think the stocking density figure we used was "one inch of fish per 12 square inches of surface area"?

Clearly with the help of people like Walstad, and all the others researching the science of our hobby, our collective knowledge has progressed a lot in those 40 years. I can still remember our much valued LFS selling my mate a male Betta, a Red Tailed Black Shark, and an Oscar for his existing community tank. You can imagine what happened.

To me, one of the fascinating things about our hobby is learning. Trying to establish the facts of what is happening - and what is not happening. All tanks are different - even two of mine that I have tried so hard "to keep the same"  The plants that I transferred across after cycling have performed so differently, some a lot better, some disastrously!

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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2016, 12:02:03 PM »
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Oh the potential of a 6ft tank, I look forward to seeing it set up.

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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2016, 01:11:18 PM »
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Yes, I too had a tank in the late 60s, I think it was about 60 cms, had one each of most things, guppies and an Angel fish mixed together, baby guppies would be swallowed as a wriggling ball the second after they came out of the mother. But the fish generally didn't die. We did eventually get an under gravel filter, which improved things a lot. Still, it's important to remember that people kept fish perfectly successfully for decades before most of today's ideas (such as cycling with ammonia) appeared. The concept of the "balanced aquarium", where plants and fish complemented each other, was very much to the fore then. What Diana Walstead did was to update the concept, based on proper research. A balanced aquarium is still a valid objective, but many of the things people do tend to upset the balance. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

There is a much bigger choice of fish these days, but many of them (plecs, many cichlids, hillstream fish etc.) are unsuited to most community tanks. When there was less choice, people were less likely to make mistakes, though the Oscars, Jack Dempseys, Red-tailed sharks and so on have been around for a long time. And LFS advice is as dubious as ever.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2016, 08:55:16 AM »
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I think I'm going to separate the tanks out into separate threads if that's ok with everyone, as I can see this becoming a big mess ;D I'll add the new threads when I do some work on the tank.

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2016, 09:05:26 AM »
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Myself or the other mods will be able to help clean up/split your topic into more Darren just let us know  ;)

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Re: My Aquariums
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2016, 11:35:01 AM »
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Myself or the other mods will be able to help clean up/split your topic into more Darren just let us know  ;)
Thanks Paddy. I think I'll create one for the 6' tank and leave this here for now, as the other aquariums won't have much changes going on in the short term.

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I think leave this as a 'summary of your tanks thread', then start new threads whenever you want to talk about one particular tank  :)

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2016, 05:36:45 AM »
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I've been reading this with interest wondering all the while why I hadn't heard of this soil, then I read some old articles and believe I've come up with the answer - Miracle Gro Organic Choice Potting Mix is the soil recommended by Walstad herself.  Hhaving set up my current tank prior to any knowledge of this type of substrate, I guess I focussed on only a few articles and got lucky... I've no idea of course if this would be any better than the soils mentioned above, but there is a picture of it in her article 'Small Planted Tanks for Pet Shrimp' where she says "While any unfertilized  potting soil will work, I have gotten good results  using Miracle Gro’s Organic Choice ‘Potting  Mix’.  It contains well-composted organic matter,  no chemical fertilizers (e.g., ammonium sulfate),  and has a desirably low NPK ratio of 0.010, 0.05,  0.05.  The soil does not generate much turbidity,  nor contain nuisance perlite pieces that float to the  surface". I hope that helps in some way, I can't claim to have any technical understand in of why this may or may not be any better but I'm wondering if the no fertilisers bit is the key???

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2016, 08:37:28 AM »
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"Miracle Gro Organic Choice Potting Mix is the soil recommended by Walstad herself"
She certainly does not mention it in her book. As she is American, it's highly unlikely that the same potting composts (or potting soils as they call them in the USA) are available here as there.
Not to say that it might not be a good choice.

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