Matt's 220 Litre Aquaoak

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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2018, 10:57:12 PM »
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It's worth trying alternative plants in your "bad" locations @fcmf . I put an anubias in my bad spot and it turned into a monster. (Huge, not nasty)

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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2018, 06:03:17 PM »
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It's worth trying alternative plants in your "bad" locations @fcmf . I put an anubias in my bad spot and it turned into a monster. (Huge, not nasty)
There's one location in particular which kills off any plant - usually overnight but at least within 3 days.

Interesting theory about the bad spots fcmf... it could well be lighting or flow related. I know floating plants dont like too much flow and  so was the spot they didn't do so well in high light and high flow?
Definitely not high flow - but most likely high light for some reason; I've had plants smell as though they've been singed in that particular place.

This weekends current plans are to add 2 corys 1 cardinal and 1 harlequin. I realise this probably seems a bit odd, but this will mean 4 of each species and they all like to be in groups of 4 minimum.  I can then increase their numbers in following weeks.
Glad you plan to increase their numbers in subsequent weeks. Much of the advice on here about 4+ per species is not up-to-date - recommendations now tend to be 6+ (or often 8-10+) but cross-check with Seriously Fish for each species to be sure. For the sake of a few weeks until you increase numbers, though, I'm sure 4 will be fine.


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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2018, 09:14:51 PM »
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Glad you plan to increase their numbers in subsequent weeks. Much of the advice on here about 4+ per species is not up-to-date - recommendations now tend to be 6+ (or often 8-10+) but cross-check with Seriously Fish for each species to be sure. For the sake of a few weeks until you increase numbers, though, I'm sure 4 will be fine.

Just realised I forgot the crucial piece of information from the below... I've no intention of keeping my fish in minimum numbers now I have so much space!! I can only add a third additional stocking each week, to allow the filter bacteria to grow.  This weekends additions will be an additional third. Next weekends third will be a bigger third though so things should build up nicely :)

Changed about 90 litres tonight... not fun doing it with half buckets to refill as my tap thingy hasn't arrived yet! Fortunately I could easily do full buckets when emptying it!! Water has cleared up nicely as a result and the water I took out was definitely a light tea colour so it's definitely tannins that were affecting the water the last couple of days. I managed to siphon off a good amount of the white wood fuzz though I though this was also growing on the old wood... turns out it is some sort of algae.  I'll do some research on this in the morning. I've added a small dose of liquid carbon which should start to tackle this anyway. I was expecting some sort of algae growth given its a new set up in many ways.

Also moved across the last lot of plants from the 64 litre tank (Amazon swords and some crypts) and put root tabs under everything that I felt was a root feeder. I've put a photo below though apart from the Amazon sword you may not see much different as the crypts went behind the wood to grow bigger.  I'll post a photo of the 64 litre in the gallery thread. It looks nothing like it used to!

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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2018, 09:20:38 PM »
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Your tank looks lovely.  ;D

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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2018, 07:08:05 PM »
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Well the plans changed....

I have bought the 2 additional rams and added them and my current ones to the tank.  They just didnt seem comfortable in the 64 litre any more for some reason.  They have coloured up and are out and about a lot more now so I think it was the right move.  So I now have 2 German blue rams, one golden and one neon. They look amazing together and I'm so glad I did this  ;D

This was a bit of a large boost to the stocking so more plants were bought to try and help out on this front too.  The tank is now looking a lot more 'mature'.  I don't want to know how much I've spent on plants overall... it's a big number  ::)

I also have boosted the numbers of galaxy rasbora in the 64 litre with the space created my the move of the rams.  These can be moved across next weekend or the weekend after and then I can also start to boost the numbers of the harlequins/cardinals/corys.

I also removed and boiled some of the branches of the old wood now in the 220 litre. I may do the same again... I have the dreaded black bearded algae growing  :'(  I suspect this will be an going battle...

The plans for the 64 litre have also changed following a trip to the LFS with Mrs Matt and very much for the better I think... more in the gallery thread!

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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2018, 07:18:20 PM »
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Gorgeous.

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Re: Matt's planning for 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2018, 09:55:14 PM »
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Gosh, you've had a busy day.
Fantastic.  ;D

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2018, 10:30:13 PM »
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40% water change completed, sand surface cleaned, moss balls squeezed in old tank water and wood fungus stuff siphoned off.  Tanks looking great. I even manaved to siphon off nearly all of the bba with a little gentle persuasion with the end of the siphone hose.  It didnt budge the week before and i have been religiously adding liquid carbon to the tank each morning to try and tackle it.  That and the tank becoming more mature and the plants settling in has definately meant that the bba has died off significantly.  There is a bit of more stubborn stuff on the new wood but overall I'm confident I'm getting on top of the outbreak.  This will hopefully die off over the next week too, I will also be boiling any sections that are easy to remove again this weekend.

Oh and cleaning the glass... should I be worried about trapping sand under the glass cleaner thing and scratching the glass?

I add the 10 galaxy rasbora tomorrow from the 64litre and will be doing a further 10-15% water change when i refill the 64 litre after its rescape. Next addition will be 4 gobys, then I will finally get back to increasing the numbers of the schoaling species!

Can't wait for my new siphon hose and refill tap connector thing to come... all these buckets im lugging around are becoming hard work!

Other than that everything is nice and stable in the tank... long may it continue  :)

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2018, 10:36:45 PM »
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I figure with a pair of two legged pets and a decent sized fish tank, I don't need a gym membership. When I'm not working, I'm either chasing around or lugging buckets of water across my house.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2018, 10:52:19 PM »
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Oh and cleaning the glass... should I be worried about trapping sand under the glass cleaner thing and scratching the glass?
Having done that very thing about 6 months ago, I can vouch for how frustrating it is to see 2 several-inches-long scratch marks on the front pane of glass, especially when the light is on. I'll take a pic of it tomorrow and add it in here to serve as a useful reminder to you to be extra careful in that respect! :)

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2018, 09:45:40 AM »
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I scratched my last tank with sand using one of those magnetic cleaners.

One of the best things for cleaning the glass is a plastic plant label. Or one of those pot scrubbers that look like a brightly coloured knitted plastic ball.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2018, 06:33:29 PM »
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Ok well I used a magnetic glass cleaner very carefully and its done a great job. As soon as I did the first strip of glass you could tell just how badly it needed doing!! I bought a glass cleaner that floats so even if I go wrong it shouldn't go near the sand!

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« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2018, 06:41:29 PM »
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The main problem I had with magnetic cleaners was the string that joins the two bits was too short to allow the bit inside the tank to get low down. When I used thick sewing thread instead it just rotted and fell apart. So I had to use the two halves without any string but the inside bit kept falling off and getting covered with sand. It was after this happened with my last tank that I failed to remove just one grain of sand and scratched the glass.

You have just reminded me that I haven't cleaned the inside of the glass for a few months and I can still see in fine. I have no idea why algae etc has suddenly vanished from the glass unless it's the stiphodons  ???

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2018, 06:51:40 PM »
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Could also be the shrimps or nerites... I had grown a nice thick layer of algae on the back of my old set up... like you, one day I noticed it had completely vanished!

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« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2018, 07:53:58 PM »
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I find my nerite has a sort of OCD for cleaning the filters and front and side/algae-free panes over and over and over again until they're almost gleaming; however, he tends not to do much about breaking through the thick layer of algae on the back or other side pane. Yesterday, I had the magnetic cleaner out, having checked it diligently for sand grains beforehand, and tackled the thick layers of algae; typically, he then decided to QA my work, having not actually contributed much to cleaning those particular panes beforehand.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #95 on: January 20, 2018, 09:44:53 PM »
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Photo of the tank as it is now... I can see the plants have grown since the previous photo which is nice as the tank is still only getting 4.5 hours light per day. I will be increasing this tomorrow though.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #96 on: January 20, 2018, 10:27:00 PM »
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That tank looks lovely.  :)

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #97 on: January 20, 2018, 11:11:32 PM »
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Lovely. I trust that those who have been transferred over are still enjoying and exploring the larger environment?  :)

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« Reply #98 on: January 20, 2018, 11:31:14 PM »
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Looking gorgeous.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2018, 05:44:05 AM »
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Lovely. I trust that those who have been transferred over are still enjoying and exploring the larger environment?  :)

Yep :) it's really nice having the 4 rams in the tank. I did have some concern over territories and aggression but they seem to have it figured out. There is naturally more and less dominant fish in the group but they are not scrapping by any stretch, they are in fact very calm with each other if they want to be, if they want to display to each other they do but if they want to ignore each other they will.

I'm going to take a small risk against my own stocking rule of no more than a third extra being added each week (really this shouldn't matter much as the tank is heavily planted) and add 4 goby tomorrow to keep on top of the algae and fungus growing on the wood. Im also having a little break from adding ferts over the next couple of days and won't add any fish next week as a result.  I feel like the new tank phase has passed nice and quickly due to the planting, low initial stocking, and transfer of biomedia and remaining algae etc associated with a new system now just needs to be mopped up.

Time for frequequent regular water tests to resume! I hope I don't regret my decision!
I'm assuming ammonia levels will be highest (if there is any) before the lights come on in he morning and the plants get going so this would be the optimum time to test?

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