Matt's 220 Litre Aquaoak

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #240 on: July 21, 2020, 05:53:21 AM »
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I have been entering the room very carefully to observe if this might be the case. However yesterday he came out when my one year old was playing in the same room so I’m wondering if he might be coming out when either food is in his mind or when perhaps he gets disturbed in his resting place - by a Kuhli Loach or Cory perhaps.  I still haven’t had much more than a fleeting glance so far though. Not enough to really draw any more conclusions about his well being.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #241 on: August 03, 2020, 05:08:24 PM »
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When see today (I haven’t seen him much) he didn’t run for cover quite as much as before and still looked healthy...  or much else to report unfortunately, but I have a feeling things are slowly on the mend. I didn’t see any sign of swim bladder is the short glance I got.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #242 on: August 16, 2020, 05:06:40 PM »
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Had to go searching for him today as not seen in a long while - found him still hiding... no signs of improvement to behaviour... could this all be due to lack of a ‘friend’... surely not...

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #243 on: August 16, 2020, 07:36:37 PM »
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Time to temporarily purchase 3 women (if LFS permits) and see if he chooses one... (then return the 2 turned down)?
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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #244 on: August 16, 2020, 08:17:57 PM »
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Time to temporarily purchase 3 women (if LFS permits) and see if he chooses one... (then return the 2 turned down)?
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Then he just needs Cilla Black and he's sorted!

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #245 on: August 16, 2020, 09:30:25 PM »
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Time to temporarily purchase 3 women (if LFS permits) and see if he chooses one... (then return the 2 turned down)?
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Then he just needs Cilla Black and he's sorted!

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #246 on: August 26, 2020, 06:53:00 AM »
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Starting to see more of him now, twice in one day the other day(!) and saw him eating last night which was a relief (I assume he must have been eating in the night previously and have been putting in sinking pellets for him to find) he’s still not right of course but starting to see improvements. I suspect this is a case of  a swimbladder issue after an argument between the pair resulting in the loss of the female unfortunately - these things take time to repair... don’t know why they suddenly decided to fall out but these things can happen of course.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #247 on: August 28, 2020, 02:32:20 PM »
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don’t know why they suddenly decided to fall out but these things can happen of course.
Unfortunately, they are notorious for this if they haven't actually chosen their partner; they'll tolerate them for so long and then... :vcross: I've read of so many similar scenarios. Sue summed it up well ie
This is what made me ask about them being a bonded pair. With a lot of cichlids, if they haven't chosen their own partner they can appear to get on and even breed, then one of them snaps and attacks or even kills the other  :(

Hopefully any internal damage to whatever organs repairs itself in time, after which you can decide whether or not to play Cilla Black.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #248 on: August 28, 2020, 04:39:18 PM »
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I think I’ve decided not to play cilla and risk the same issue again and suspect you and Sue are right. I’ve seen him eat the last 2 days in a row and think things are still on the up!  I think I’m going to let him live out the rest of his life in peace and switch to Bolivian rams which are more peaceful as my next fish...

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #249 on: August 31, 2020, 01:46:33 PM »
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Don't forget that Bolivian rams also need to choose their own mates.........

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #250 on: August 31, 2020, 07:02:44 PM »
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Yes but fortunately they can be kept in groups! Which I’m hoping will ease any such situations...

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #251 on: August 31, 2020, 07:31:55 PM »
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If a pair forms there could still be trouble.

About 10 years ago I bought 2 Bolivian rams which turned out to be both male. They coexisted with no bickering. Then I found a shop with mature rams with their breeding tubes visible so I bought 2 females. As soon as the males had something to fight over, it was world war 3 in the tank so one male went into the QT. After dithering between them for 4 days, the male paired up with one female and they both attacked the other. She went in the QT as well, then they went back to the shop.


it is now believed that male Bolivian rams are solitary fish in the wild, only allowing a female to enter their territory.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #252 on: August 31, 2020, 07:49:14 PM »
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Thanks for that info Sue - date I say... at one point I was considering angelfish...! The world of dwarf cichlids is not easy... but they have stolen my heart...

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #253 on: September 23, 2020, 08:34:17 PM »
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Still not seeing much of the big guy though it is more and more each week... and nearly always as meal times.

In other news I’ve taken out all the aquasoil from the tank recently - quite a task siphoning it out over three weeks during water changes - moving all the hardscape and replanting all the plants etc... but it should massively decrease the length of time it takes me to complete tank maintenance... the aquasoil constantly got moved around in the tank ending up on the cosmetic sand at the front - also the goby was constantly digging it up. I’ve moved now to a simple 50% water change one week siphoned out into the garden and filled using the tap connector and hose (no sand cleaning etc.) I can do this whilst my little one plays by keeping the hose out of reach. The next week then is a tank maintenance week (a few buckets of water changed as a result of sand cleaning / holding the siphon tube next to the glass cleaner / whatever else is required that week like maybe filter maintenance  etc.). Im confident in doing this because my tap water nitrates are negligible plus my stocking less than 50%, the heavily planted nature of the tank inc floating plants will also help too. It should allow me to get more enjoyment from the tank with less input and also stop the tank from always looking messy with the aquasoil issues. I am using root tabs to provide the plants with nutrition where required. If I were setting up the tank anew I would probably have done a nutrient rich base layer under the sand. I have a backup plan to use hidden containers of aquasoil with high sides if this doesnt work out for the plants... I’m pretty confident it will though given I have established plants, water column dosing etc etc...  fingers crossed  :cheers:

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #254 on: October 04, 2020, 10:45:48 AM »
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Well after much debate which nearly led to me spending £1000 on 2 pairs of wild caught rams(!) I’ve now got two German Blue and two Electric Blue Rams. Only time will tell how they all get on but I am hopeful that having more will disperse any aggression between them and the tank is big enough for them to form territories etc.  I have seen some bickering between them already so taking this as a good sign that they are settling hierarchies and it appears two may be ‘interested’ in each other already. I’m staying positive but alert and ready to take action if required also. It appears I have all females but again time will tell as it is hard to tell for sure at their young age and particularly with the electric blues.

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #255 on: October 04, 2020, 11:52:33 AM »
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They are certainly stunning fish.
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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #256 on: October 19, 2020, 09:39:34 PM »
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Quick photo update I’d meant to post ages ago following the substrate changes... these have worked so well I’m having to remind myself to do water changes rather than being reminded by the state of the tank- bliss! I’ve also taken out a couple of rocks from the right hand side and made a few tweaks to the scape generally... enjoy!

I’ve also bought some ludwigia palustris mini super red to try and see if I can get them growing nice and red now I’ve upped my lighting a bit and am constructing a little planting holder I can stick to the glass at the back using suction cups (to be hidden of course) so they can grow out the top of my scape - keep you all posted!

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #257 on: October 20, 2020, 06:30:41 PM »
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Tank & fish all looking fantastic.
Well done.  ;D

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #258 on: October 20, 2020, 06:48:32 PM »
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 8) :cheers:  :afro :cheers: 8)

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Re: Matt's 220 litre Aquaoak
« Reply #259 on: February 03, 2021, 12:48:49 AM »
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I just won the Maidenhead Aquatics gallery competition with this photo!  Very pleased!!  8)

Good timing - I’ve selected the marine prize bundle which will get me started for my new saltwater tank!

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