Matt's 12 Litre No-tech Cold Water Shrimp Tank

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Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« on: June 22, 2018, 09:03:13 PM »
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Here are the photos I promised of the 12 litre no-tech shrimp tank I've created.  It is a coldwater set up with glass shrimp and nerites snails.

Spider wood and volcanic rock are the hardscape. Plants are java fern, anubias, java moss, salvinia natans , some moss, and ferns from the garden (of unknown variety!) and Lysimachia nummularia growing emergent.

I'll try and get some close ups of the shrimp at some point.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2018, 09:25:29 PM »
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I'm very impressed with your 12 litre tank.  :afro
Awesome.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2018, 09:48:29 PM »
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You really do have a gift for aquascaping.

I'm really intrigued on what your water parameters are like with only the plants for filtering.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 10:27:17 PM »
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Blimey Matt, that looks fantastic dude...!!! 

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 10:32:27 PM »
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Thanks Pierre, Donna, Helen  :))

@Helen To be honest I've not been testing them... the shrimp are very happy and are putting on some nice coloration (for glass shrimp) and have visually grown even in the short time they have been in there (about a month). As we know, shrimp are quite sensitive creatures, so I have no concerns about water chemistry as a result. The plants were also established in other tanks before being added to this tank and the emergent growth and floating plants will no doubt be helping. 

I've just done a water change on the tank but will do some tests after leaving the tank a couple of weeks now and see what results I get.  I have only added food once so far, just letting them deal with any algae , diatoms etc that's in there so that will no doubt be helping.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2018, 10:51:37 PM »
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Aufwuchs...!!!   :yikes:

I love that word, lolol...   :rotfl:    Probably a significant player in the shrimp diet at the mo...?

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2018, 11:59:19 PM »
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Lovely looking tank. Looking forward to seeing pictures of the Shrimp at some point.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2018, 07:38:25 AM »
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Ive decided to try hydrocotyle tripartia in the scape too... I have a small piece which is struggling in my big tank currently. So I'll get some photos of that plus the snails for you!

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2018, 09:41:43 AM »
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Which snail varieties have you gone with Matt...?

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2018, 11:23:11 AM »
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Are you using just ambient light or have you something specifically beamed on to the tank (led spotlight or similar).

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2018, 01:34:15 PM »
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The tank looks amazing  :)

Shrimps and snails do have a low bioload so the plants are obviously coping with everything they excrete.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2018, 01:36:30 PM »
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Wow, wow, wow - fantastic! You were certainly harbouring a couple of secrets recently re this and your pond plan. Very exciting developments.  ;D

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2018, 06:41:39 PM »
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Which snail varieties have you gone with Matt...?

I have 2 horned nerites and a 'standard' nerite.

Are you using just ambient light or have you something specifically beamed on to the tank (led spotlight or similar).

Ambient light. The emerged plants grow towards the window and the tank gets direct sunlight for a very small time in the early morning.

Ive included a snail photo below... sorry about the quality.

And finally thanks to all for all the kind words!

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2018, 10:52:37 PM »
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That's a clever disguise for a snail Matt...  ;)

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2018, 09:37:24 AM »
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That's a clever disguise for a snail Matt...  ;)

Oh @TopCookie  don't you recognise the lesser-spotted false-eyed shrimp-imitating snail when you see one.  :isay:
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2018, 11:33:29 AM »
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How did I miss that...!!! 

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 10:13:39 AM »
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I had a shrimp pass away... after moulting i believe... does anyone have any experience with shrimp deaths after moulting? Does this indicate a deficiency of some kind?

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 10:35:24 AM »
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I've not experienced shrimp deaths after moulting, but I have experienced shrimp deaths due to a failed moult. Though in my main tank, where the shrimps are now, I'd never know as a dead shrimp would be eaten pretty quickly.

Have the shrimps been moulting OK up to now, or is this the first one to moult in this tank?

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 10:45:08 AM »
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I've not experienced this either.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 07:23:18 PM »
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Its the first one to moult as far as im aware sue...

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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2018, 07:43:27 PM »
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When I first had cherry shrimp they kept dying with a white line across their backs. A member on here then (Natalia) told me that was a sign of a failed moult, which I do realise isn't the same as your shrimp. But she said that there is a bacterium that affects shrimp and although there are meds that can be used, she preferred a preventative which boosts the immune system instead. She recommended beta glucans - this is sold on Amazon and Ebay as Genchem Beta G. I got some, and whether it helped or not I can't be sure because the last shrimp was a female carrying eggs, she died but the babies survived and were the start of my colony. Would the babies have been OK anyway, or did the beta g help?
This might help your shrimps.

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2018, 10:36:07 PM »
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I understand Calcium deficiency can cause Shrimp to die post moult. Donít know if this could be a possibility in your case.

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2018, 09:26:58 PM »
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My latest thinking is actually that they didn't have enough food overall. I'm going to try upping the feeding regime. As a new tank I don't think it had enough microflora to support them all the shrimp and snails on the low feeding regime I had them on to protect water quality.... I'm not sure but I might move the snails into another tank...

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2018, 10:27:49 PM »
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Rescape!

I've taken the snails out and put them in my main tank... they generate far too much waste for a small tank...

I'm also moving the tank to a different location in my house. Having a large still body of water in the kitchen just wasn't sitting well with me especially after some lovely looking mould started growing on the wood! This means that the tank will no longer be viewed from all angles. Hence the new layout.

I'll get a better picture in the morning, though you may just be able to see the top of a sponge filter in the background which I had sitting in the cupboard - now the tank can be nearer a power outlet this is doable so seems silly not too... I'm thinking of adding a pair of least killifish!
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If anyone is interested in building a no tech coldwater shrimp tank themselves I would certainly recommend it as this was a really easy project. Just don't add anything else other than the shrimp. By the way, my setup was more like 8 litres of water due to the low water level so no need to worry too much about size it would seem... Just make sure you have live plants (the plants viaibly grew in their time in the tank with no ferts added) including floating plants and give some thought to cleaning the tank as you set it up... minimise any caves that you can't get a siphon into to clean and I would also consider having just plants attached to wood/rock you can easily remove. That way you could just pick out the decor, do your cleaning, decor back in and your done. That would make for a really successful low maintenance tank  :cheers:

Come to think of it... that's not a bad idea... strange how writing this has got me thinking maybe I should have set it up this way... I'll have to see if I can get another 12liter tank on the cheap like I did this one... ::)

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2018, 07:12:35 AM »
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A lovely looking tank @Matt
So good to know that something that looks like that can be put together and maintained as a no-tech tank.  :cheers:

I'm now thinking that anyone who may have run out of room around the house for any more tanks could set up a tank like this, pop in a battery operated air pump, and have a tank in the bathroom...

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2018, 07:20:08 AM »
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Oh dear...  :o

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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2018, 07:28:06 AM »
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That was my first reaction when the idea popped into my mind.  :rotfl:

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Re: Matt's 12 litre no-tech cold water shrimp tank
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2018, 09:47:46 AM »
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Quite "reflectioney... but still a better photo  :))

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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2018, 11:57:53 AM »
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I'm now thinking that anyone who may have run out of room around the house for any more tanks could set up a tank like this, pop in a battery operated air pump, and have a tank in the bathroom...
Glad that Littlefish is still operating in "Littlefish true mode". :rotfl:

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