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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2018, 07:23:16 PM »
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Ah, that's much more accurate  :)

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2018, 04:19:38 PM »
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Ok have checked tank today and have following results

Ammonia 0.14ppm (0 to naked eye)
Nitrite 0.25ppm
Nitrate 12.28ppm

So my main question is should I top ammonia back up to 3ppm and test again in 24 hours?

Checked tap water as well and only reading was Nitrate at3.20ppm.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2018, 04:48:46 PM »
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Since your tap nitrate has gone up, you do have both ammonia and nitrite eaters at work  :)

Yes, add 3ppm ammonia and test after 24 hours.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2018, 05:54:41 PM »
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If, when I check it tomorrow, it is 0ppm for ammonia does that mean tank is cycled?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2018, 06:36:28 PM »
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Yes. Whenever it is that you reach the point where 3 ppm ammonia is cleared to zero ammonia and zero nitrite in 24 hours, that's when it is cycled. Then just do a water change to get nitrate down to tap level, and buy fish.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2018, 07:12:17 PM »
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Yes. Whenever it is that you reach the point where 3 ppm ammonia is cleared to zero ammonia and zero nitrite in 24 hours, that's when it is cycled. Then just do a water change to get nitrate down to tap level, and buy fish.

Ok, but if I cant get fish the same day, how much ammonia should I add to keep things ticking over? Also how much stock can I add. Is it best to take it slow?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2018, 07:22:35 PM »
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If your tank can remove 3 ppm completely in 24 hours, you can theoretically add the whole proposed stock at once, provided you haven't gone over the top with the amount of fish  :) In practise, there may well be some species that do better when added to a mature tank, a mature tank being one which has grown a whole host of micro-organisms and not just filter bacteria. A tank is reckoned to be mature when it has been running trouble free for 4 to 6 months. Personally I would aim for slightly less than all the fish you intend once the tank is cycled just to give some wiggle room.
Taking it slow is for when you don't know how many bacteria you have grown (eg using fish food instead of ammonia; doing a fish-in cycle) or you are doing a silent cycle with plants and you can't be sure just how much ammonia the plants will take up.


If you can't go fish shopping straight away, add 1 ppm every 3rd day then do the big water change and go shopping. But if it will be at least a couple of weeks, I would still add the 1 ppm then do 3 ppm 2 days before you can go shopping just to make sure it can still be cleared in 24 hours.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2018, 03:38:33 PM »
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So checked ammonia and is at 1.41ppm from the 3ppm I added yesterday. Should I leave things until ammonia is zero and then add 3ppm again or should I top up ammonia until zero after 24 hours?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2018, 04:07:42 PM »
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Test every day until the day ammonia is below 0.25 and nitrite is below 1.0. Then add another 3 ppm ammonia and continue testing every day. Continue like this till they are both zero 24 hours after adding ammonia.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2018, 04:18:38 PM »
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Test every day until the day ammonia is below 0.25 and nitrite is below 1.0. Then add another 3 ppm ammonia and continue testing every day. Continue like this till they are both zero 24 hours after adding ammonia.

Perfect, thanks Sue.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2018, 07:09:15 PM »
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Ammonia was down to 0.20ppm and nitrite was 0.5ppm so added 3ppm ammonia and see what it is like tomorrow.

One quick question. Once tank is cycled do I think of tank as new or as it had been running for 10 months before my house move is it more a mature tank?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2018, 07:19:35 PM »
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I would think of it as a new tank. There are thousands of other micro-organisms that contribute to a mature tank. These live everywhere in the tank and as yours has been empty quite a while there will be few of them still surviving.

Besides, where the lives of fish are concerned it is always better to be over-cautious.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2018, 03:35:30 PM »
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Ok, seem to have had a Nitrite bloom as was 1.56ppm today. Ammonia was 0.33ppm. With Nitrite as it is, should I be considering a water change?

So no new ammonia today. When the nitrite drops below 0.50ppm and I add in the ammonia again, do I add back to 3ppm or just add 3ppm?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2018, 04:20:35 PM »
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You only need to worry about nitrite when it reaches the top if the scale because with that reading it could be exactly that level or anything above. As long as the reading stays somewhere on the scale you don't need to do a water change.

By the time nitrite drops below 1.0 ammonia will probably be zero so add 3 ppm  - which will also top it up to 3 ppm  :)

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2018, 03:04:39 PM »
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In case it helps anyone else, both ammonia and nitrite were down to zero today so added 3ppm ammonia and will check again tomorrow.

In my new second hand tank did the first check today and ammonia has dropped to 2.59ppm from 3ppm, so that is a good sign. Was going to add some sponge from other tank but have decided to leave things as they are and try and fishless cycle the new tank.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2018, 02:52:52 PM »
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ok, i'm slightly confused but it probably is very straightforward. Checked ammonia and was down to 0.45ppm from 3ppm yesterday but my nitrite has gone back up to 1.50ppm. Am I still in the nitrite blooming stage? I wont add any ammonia until tomorrow as long as nitrite is back down but wondering if same might happen the day after.

Any ideas?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2018, 04:17:55 PM »
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You now have a lot of ammonia eaters which can eat almost 3 ppm in 24 hours (2.55 ppm to be precise). They have turned this 2.55 ppm ammonia into 6.8 ppm nitrite.
The reason your nitrite is going up is because you have only enough nitrite eaters to eat 6.8 - 1.5 = 5.3 ppm nitrite in 24 hours.

Nitrite eaters always lag behind ammonia eaters because they can't start multiplying till the ammonia eaters have made some nitrite, and nitrite eaters multiply slower than ammonia eaters.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2018, 07:41:05 PM »
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Thanks Sue

Thought it was something like that but it makes sense now.

Thanks

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2018, 03:53:24 PM »
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Back to zero for both Nitrite and Ammonia so topped back up for 3ppm ammonia. Here's hoping the Nitrite fellows get their act together.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2018, 03:10:25 PM »
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Starting to hate my tank at moment. Ammonia nil, but Nitrites seem stuck on 1.42ppm after adding 3ppm ammonia.

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