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Tropical Fish Keeping Help and Advice => Fishtank Filtration and Cycling => Topic started by: Bazza2000 on September 02, 2018, 06:28:50 PM

Title: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Bazza2000 on September 02, 2018, 06:28:50 PM
Hi,

Bit of a silly question, but I don't seem to be able to find a definitive answer anywhere.

I have a bottom of Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution for my Fishless'ish cycle, the instruction say
"add 4 drops per gallon" I'm just not sure wether thats a US gallon or an Imperial Gallon.

Anyone used this before?
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Littlefish on September 02, 2018, 06:57:37 PM
Is it an American product? Is the bottle size in ounces or ml?
I'd suggest that, if the bottle size in in ounces, then the gallons are US.
I think @Sue is familiar with the Dr Tim's products, so perhaps she can confirm the instructions for you.  :)
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Matt on September 02, 2018, 07:15:52 PM
Alternatively, take a litre of water and add enough to get 3ppm by adding some, testing how far you get etc...
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Bazza2000 on September 02, 2018, 08:00:08 PM
Is it an American product? Is the bottle size in ounces or ml?
I'd suggest that, if the bottle size in in ounces, then the gallons are US.
I think @Sue is familiar with the Dr Tim's products, so perhaps she can confirm the instructions for you.  :)

Bottle says 2oz 60ml

Does say 4 drops is 0.2ml so I've used Sue's cycle post

https://forums.thinkfish.co.uk/fishtank-filtration-and-cycling/fishless-cycling-how-to-do-it/ (https://forums.thinkfish.co.uk/fishtank-filtration-and-cycling/fishless-cycling-how-to-do-it/)

to work out how many drops for 130 litre.

"0.2ml ammonia per 10 litres" = 13 (130 / 10 litres) x 0.2ml (4 drops) = 52 drops (hope no-one has to correct my maths  :yikes: )

Ammonia is in, just waiting approx 1hr for circulation and then gonna check how close to 3ppm we're at.
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Littlefish on September 02, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
 ;D
Maths not my strong point.
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Matt on September 02, 2018, 08:08:13 PM
I thought a gallon was 3.785 litres. Fortunately this would mean that you've not added enough rather than too much...
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Sue on September 02, 2018, 08:17:25 PM
Since Dr Tim's is an American company they will be American gallons. And the concentration won't be equivalent to 9.5% ammonia solution so you can't use the guide amount in the sticky.



1 American gallon = 3.785 litres according to the calculator on here. So 4 drops per 3.785 litres.

3.785 litres need 4 drops, therefore 130 litres need 3.875/4 x 130 = 137.38 drops

If 4 drops = 0.2 ml, 137.38 drops = 0.2/4 x 137.38 = 6.869 ml.



You can always add more, don't forget to add the drops you use together so you know how many drops in total you used for the 3 ppm dose.







I like maths  ;D I got grade 1 O level, and wanted to do A level maths but the lessons were held at the same time as biology and biology won out.
Title: Re: Dr Tims Ammonium Chloride Solution Gallon UK or US?
Post by: Bazza2000 on September 02, 2018, 08:45:38 PM
Thanks Sue,  my son is being supervised as we speak checking the current ammonia levels  C:-)

Ammonia: 0.5 - 1 ppm (52 drops)

(https://goo.gl/wferK5)

Added further +88 drops, total = 140 drops = 2-4ppm

Hoping my starfish and crocodile (photo) can handle the ammonia buildup  :rotfl:

Not my choice by the way, it is a birthday present after all, so they wanted to pick all the decor.