Restarting Tank

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2018, 02:46:56 PM »
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Hi Sue

No I didn't add any bicarb. Out of the tap my Nitrate is 3ppm. I only asked about doing a lower water change as having just done a 90% on Friday I am hoping I can get away with a smaller one.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2018, 02:53:18 PM »
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With such a large difference between tap and tank nitrate, you really do need to get that level down. Don't forget that every ppm ammonia you've added is turned into ~3.5 ppm nitrate. It will go up more once you have fish (unless you do get some plants!) And nitrate does need to be kept below 20 ppm where tap water levels permit.

I am trying to persuade you to do a large-ish water change  ;D

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2018, 02:56:19 PM »
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Ok, will do a large change. But apart from that, with ammonia and nitrites at zero, I could add fish tomorrow for instance?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2018, 05:02:33 PM »
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So managed to do a 98% water change. So am I ok to get fish tomorrow for instance? What sort of stock level should I aim for?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #84 on: February 18, 2018, 05:32:47 PM »
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In theory, you can get all the fish on your wish list. But there may be some species that do better in mature tanks (ie once that has been running trouble free for several months) rather than a newly cycled tanks, so they will have to wait a bit.
But if you don't want any fish that need mature tanks I would still say get no more than 80% of your wish list as this leaves a bit of wiggle room should something not go as planned.

Of course, you may find the shop that stocks all the fish you want won't let you buy them all at once, so you'd need to be devious eg ask a friend to buy some of them for 'their' tank.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2018, 02:05:16 PM »
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Well all seems to be going well in my first tank, ammonia level is near zero and fish are happy.

Second tank has been going 2 weeks or so and finally today has been a ammonia drop to 1.50 and nitrite has gone up to 2.17 so that is a good sign.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2018, 09:53:10 PM »
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Good news  :cheers:

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2018, 10:27:52 PM »
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 :)
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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2018, 10:32:29 PM »
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That's good news and sounds promising.
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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2018, 03:05:29 PM »
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In the fishless cycle guide it says at some point you only top up to 1ppm and do checks every second day, is that still correct?

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2018, 05:00:27 PM »
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Yes, that's right.

The reason for this is adding too much ammonia makes so much nitrite it stalls the cycle. Adding just 1 ppm at least 4 days apart keeps the ammonia eaters fed and stops nitrite getting to stall point (~15 to 16 ppm). Depending how fast ammonia drops to zero after the 3 ppm dose of ammonia in stage 6, that could mean adding 1 ppm in as little as 4 days, or 6 days later or 8 days later - there must be 2 zero readings for ammonia 2 days apart.

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Re: Restarting tank
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2018, 08:30:04 PM »
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Thanks Sue

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