Cycling My Fluval Edge

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Offline jesnon

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #220 on: March 23, 2013, 10:44:52 PM »
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Thanks Sue, will sort it all out when I'm home tomorrow afternoon :-)
Can't believe you had us all going resa! im happy that nitrite levels re getting there slowly!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #221 on: March 24, 2013, 06:39:08 PM »
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My fish tank seems to have broken :-(

Just did a huge water change and now my filter won't turn back on :'(

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #222 on: March 24, 2013, 06:49:30 PM »
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The propellor is now working again but it doesn't suck any water up through the filter, just makes a straining noise.

I'm not really sure what to do :-( If I have to start all over again...

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #223 on: March 24, 2013, 07:07:16 PM »
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Follow the instructions for priming your filter.  It sounds like there's air in the filter pump.  If this is so, it just makes stupid noises and won't actually pump water.

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #224 on: March 24, 2013, 07:12:09 PM »
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Thanks Steve! My boyfriend took the filter apart and made a few adjustments and in the end it was just a case of air being in the filter pump - all looking great now! Eek I was very concerned all my poor bacteria were gonners (just think if I'd actually got fish at this point!!).

Panic over!!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #225 on: March 24, 2013, 07:29:05 PM »
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Another thing to watch for is the impeller not starting. The Edge is made by Hagen, and I used to have a Trio filter made by Hagen. It was a very good filter except for one quirk - when I turned it off to do a water change it wouldn't start again. The design made it very easy to remove the pump from the filter and all I had to do was hold the pump outlet downwards and gently flick that vanes of the impleer. That quickly started the pump then all I had to do was manouevre it back onto the filter without soaking myself. I've heard of other types of filter made by Hagen having the same problem.

Once you have fish in the tank, every so often check the impeller and the impeller well for slime build up. A cotton bud used very carefully can be used to clean the well - make sure the end doesn't fall off inside as it's very tricky to get it back out again. I speak from experience  ;D

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #226 on: March 24, 2013, 07:34:52 PM »
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Thanks for the advice Sue! I had such a panic!!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #227 on: March 24, 2013, 09:17:46 PM »
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As a treat to celebrate not having to start from the beginning I'm either going to the aquarium or going to two local fish shops to do some window shopping!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #228 on: March 24, 2013, 09:27:21 PM »
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I think that's exactly what you should do, Jesnon!  :D  It's very difficult to leave without any little fishy bags though!  You just have to remind yourself that you've come this far, and your little bubble-blowers (when you get them) will stand their best possible chance in their new home.
Fingers crossed....my little tribe seem to be happy and healthy enough, I hope I haven't jinxed things!  Sue and Colin said the first month is the real testing time for new arrivals...especially for my little otos, and we're coming up to the 3rd week!  Hopefully, not long before I can get my pandas!
Have you decided on your tank residents yet?

Oh well, have a great time window shopping, hope the weather stays good for you :)

Resa
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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #229 on: March 24, 2013, 10:12:06 PM »
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Luckily I'll be going by bus so practicalities alone should put me off giving into temptation!
The shop I haven't been too yet apparently have all my endlers and red, blue and gold crowntail so seeing them all in person might help me decide!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #230 on: March 24, 2013, 10:28:11 PM »
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ooh...decisions..decisions......

Good Luck  ;)

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #231 on: March 25, 2013, 10:55:19 AM »
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Thanks Resa! I'm consuming lots of tea and biscuits before I brave the cold later ha. This morning's readings after 1ml dose of ammonia last night:

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 0.5ppm
Nitrate 5 - 20ppm

Unfortunately my tank has quite a lot of bits floating around in it, probably after all the fiddling with the filter yesterday. My pre-filter is covered in loads of bits too. Is it OK to leave this until I need to do another water change??

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #232 on: March 25, 2013, 11:00:23 AM »
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Unfortunately my tank has quite a lot of bits floating around in it, probably after all the fiddling with the filter yesterday. My pre-filter is covered in loads of bits too. Is it OK to leave this until I need to do another water change??

Yep - that's what the filter's for. Leave it to collect all the floating bits and then squeeze out the foam in the tank water that you removed at the water change. Don't squeeze too much, you're trying to get rid of the muck, not the beneficial bacteria. Just keep an eye on it to make sure the filter isn't actually blocked and that water is circulating.

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #233 on: March 25, 2013, 11:13:38 AM »
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The filter itself is looking good, I can hear the waterfall bit trickling away :-) I'm so relieved. When it wasn't even making any noise I thought that was it - all my bacteria would be dead and I'd have to start all over again!! So glad my boyfriend was there to fix it for me, I'm not really too good with that kind of thing! Once it was making the noises again and I explained how the filter was supposed to work he worked out what the problem was - phew! I'll give the pre-filter a good squeeze on my next water change, hopefully it won't be for a little while though. Hoping my nitrite bacteria get their act together soon too!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #234 on: March 25, 2013, 03:55:39 PM »
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Well unfortunately I couldnt get to the other fish shop since it's almost inaccessible by public transpirt, but I visited the maidenhead aquatics instead and they still have their green endler guppies in stock. Gorgeous gorgeous fish! No bettas at this shop unfortunately but i think I'm leaning towards endlers and shrimp! They also had 5 different shrimp in stock including cherry red, red nose, green and orange! Do you know much about these guys? Having a mix woyld be fun! I'm almost tempted to have a tank full of the green endlers they're so cute!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #235 on: March 25, 2013, 04:36:34 PM »
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They also had 5 different shrimp in stock including cherry red, red nose, green and orange! Do you know much about these guys? Having a mix would be fun!

Having more than one type of shrimp is complicated.  Many of the coloured shrimps are of the same species and will hybridise if you keep them together.  There is a guide as to the shrimp you can mix and match at UK Shrimp

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #236 on: March 25, 2013, 05:57:22 PM »
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Ooh thanks Steve I didn't know that!

I went by the local Pets at Home as well - they have some really gorgeous endlers, they seemed much more colourful than I remember 'standard' endlers being. Some of them had a black 'base' colour and then oranges, reds, yellows, blues... really pretty things! I'm quite excited now after seeing all the endlers and shrimp. So I'm thinking:

Two 'normal' endlers
Two green endlers
Two blue Japanese endlers
Two yellow Japanese endlers

And eventually some cute little shrimpies.

It'll be quite a colourful little tank! I have two days off next week, I think my tank should be cycled by then so I can finally buy my fish....??? And get my plants!

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #237 on: March 25, 2013, 06:15:57 PM »
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There are quite a few colour variants of endler. Pure endlers have been selectively bred to get several colour ways and there are the hybrids with guppies which are what you see in the shops.
Have a look here at Adrian Hernandez's site - he's the chap who's done most of the breeding. Class N = pure endler; class P = endler guppy hybrids; class K = fish that look like endlers but with unknown parentage. Luckily, it's an American site or I would have to have some of them all  ;D

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Re: Cycling my Fluval Edge
« Reply #238 on: March 25, 2013, 06:42:30 PM »
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So many pretty colours! It looks like there's a few problems with the site, but the green endlers are more like the ones on the third page or the white peacock endlers because their tales are much more 'guppy'-like (which is why I was so entranced by them!!). They had them the last time I went in so I'm keeping my fingers crossed all the endlers I want are still in stock next week too! It's funny, when you first suggested fish for my tank I wasn't too excited by endlers and was more interested in CPD - but I saw some today and they weren't half as nice as the endlers! I can't wait to get my tank set up. I nearly bought more fake plants but thought my tank might get a bit too full.. they were pretty though ha.

Talking of fake plants... One of my plants broke off of the base - what kind of glue can I use to fix it that won't affect fish?

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« Reply #239 on: March 25, 2013, 06:48:12 PM »
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Any superglue that is made from cyanoacrylate. Just make sure it is dry before gluing and has completely dried before putting it n the tank.
For things that will stick with it (broken plants won't) you can use silicone sealant, either the expensive stuff sold for use in aquariums, or household sealant that says it does not contain things like anti-mould chemicals. I prefer to play it safe and spend more on the aquarium stuff.

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