Author Topic: Cycling my Fluval Edge (Read 101025 times) 295 replies

jesnon · « **Reply #160 on:** March 14, 2013, 11:52:37 AM »

I don't know what happened to them all :-( Silly nitrite eaters!

jesnon · « **Reply #161 on:** March 15, 2013, 11:04:14 AM »

Well something is happening, albeit very slowly...

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite between 0.25 - 0.5ppm
Nitrate between 10 - 10ppm

I was having some problems getting drops out of my second bottle of Nitrate solution though... it feels full and I'd shook it up etc, but for some reason it just wasn't coming out!

Sue · « **Reply #162 on:** March 15, 2013, 11:31:47 AM »

Have you got a pin or something that you can stick into the nozzle of the bottle? That's the one where one reagent settles out and you might have a bit of solid matter bunging up the hole.

Right, you do have some nitrite eaters. You just need to grow some more. The thing now is not to add too much ammonia. I suggest adding a smaller dose of ammonia than your usual one. Try half. If the nitrite level goes too high again, miss a dose of ammonia. Once you are getting zero for nitrite, then you can slowly increase the size of the dose to grow some more of both bacteria.

ColinB · « **Reply #163 on:** March 15, 2013, 12:23:32 PM »

Quote from: jesnon on March 15, 2013, 11:04:14 AM

Well something is happening, albeit very slowly...

Yippee!

jesnon · « **Reply #164 on:** March 16, 2013, 10:05:29 PM »

Thanks guys!

Yesterday I dosed 0.4ml ammonia

Today:
Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite between 0 and 0.25ppm
Nitrate between 20 and 40ppm

Should I increase the dose again?

Sue · « **Reply #165 on:** March 17, 2013, 11:57:49 AM »

Those results look good

I would dose the same today and if the nitrite is still dropping after that then increase the dose slowly over a few days.

jesnon · « **Reply #166 on:** March 17, 2013, 12:56:47 PM »

Makes sense :-)

Ahh it's so frustrating! I have 3 days off next week, but looks like I won't be getting fish again! I'm away for 24 hours now at work, so I'm gonna measure as late as I can just before I leave and then if needed dose more ammonia. I think I did 0.5ml last night or 0.4ml, one or the other!

jesnon · « **Reply #167 on:** March 17, 2013, 02:15:27 PM »

Normally I measure around 10pm after dosing at a similar time... but currently:

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 2 - 5ppm
Nitrate 20 - 40ppm

So I haven't dosed ammomia and won't do dose until after 3 tomorrow, when my nitrite eaters should have caught up and I'm back from work!

jesnon · « **Reply #168 on:** March 19, 2013, 05:00:28 PM »

Oops didn't update yesterday! Nitrite had dropped to 0 so I dosed 0.5ml ammonia

24 hours later:

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite very blue, somewhere between 0 and 0.25ppm
Nitrate between 20 - 40ppm

I haven't dosed yet, but will be doing so around 10pm so I can go back to checking at 10am and 10pm, as I'm off for 3 days now! How much ammonia do you think I should dose? And how long away are my fish?! I'm getting very itchy feet now!

Sue · « **Reply #169 on:** March 19, 2013, 05:04:57 PM »

Since you are now getting to zero nitrite, or thereabouts, add the amount you have been adding x2. Then when nitrite drops to zero again, add the amount you have been adding up to now x3. Snd so on till you get to 4ppm immediately after the dose has mixed in, and wait till you get seven days of double zeros within 12 hours after adding ammonia.

Or if you are really desparate to get fish, wait for 3 days of double zeros after 12 hours but keep a close eye on the levels for a few days after.

jesnon · « **Reply #170 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:49:48 AM »

12 hours after the dose and my nitrite eaters have achieved nothing so far!

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 5ppm (potentially higher)
Nitrate 40 - 80ppm

This whole process is so frustrating. My boyfriend wants to just get rid of the tank since it's 'obviously not working'...!!

ColinB · « **Reply #171 on:** March 20, 2013, 12:22:28 PM »

Ignore the boyfriend - he's just jealous of all the attention your tank is getting.

jesnon · « **Reply #172 on:** March 20, 2013, 01:30:20 PM »

Haha true! Must admit I have a bit of a love hate relationship with my tank / bacteria currently!

Sue · « **Reply #173 on:** March 20, 2013, 02:17:34 PM »

One thing you could try - buy a bottle of Tetra's Safe Start. It is the replacement for Bio Spira, the American product that was the one that worked best for adding bacteria. A lot of people swear by Safe Start though others report that it is useless. But the way your nitrite eaters are behaving, if it was me I would be grasping at any straw that might help.

I have the option to use some mature media if my cycle ends up the same way, in your case Safe Start might just help. Being seen to be doing something might keep your boyfriend quiet a bit longer

Sue · « **Reply #174 on:** March 20, 2013, 07:31:01 PM »

I see you've posted elsewhere

If TwoTankAmin replies, follow his advice. He is very well read in the literature of fishless cycling and is much more up to date than anyone else on that site. I have trouble following him at times

I would pm you over there, but you can't acess your pm's till you've reached 10 posts (to stop spammers)

jesnon · « **Reply #175 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:00:10 PM »

Haha yes I was getting quite desperate and stumbled across that site earlier when I was googling 'cycles stuck in nitrite phase'! The forum is a lot more confusing than this one I discovered though. Fingers crossed someone has some suggestions

I'm out tomorrow so I may have a look for some nutrafin cycle and give it a go - I don't think it's that expensive so it'll be worth a try even if it does achieve nothing! I had a bottle that came with my tank but it was really small, I don't think it was even enough for the first two days of the recommended dose.

jesnon · « **Reply #176 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:30:18 PM »

Nothing much going on still unfortunately.

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite appears to have dropped so it's now on the scale, around 5ppm
Nitrate 80ppm

I'm not dosing ammonia and leaving it until tomorrow morning to see if my nitrite eaters catch up... then I'm heading to buy some nutrafin cycle and to visit the fish shop I've been wanting to check out for a while now! Maybe they'll have some advice or let me borrow some media, or of course try and sell me something... only time will tell!

Sue · « **Reply #177 on:** March 21, 2013, 08:44:11 AM »

Don't get Nutrafin Cycle - that has a terrible reputation for doing nothing. Look for Tetra Safe Start - that has worked in some cases. And any shop that gives mature media will most likely sell you some as they can't guarantee they'll ever see you again if you borrow it.

That other site is completely different from this one. I joined both at the same time in 2006. Just to warn you, the posters on there tend to be a bit more aggressive in their manner than people here. The one advantage the other site has over this is that it has a lot more active members so someone should be able to come up with something.

jesnon · « **Reply #178 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:02:16 AM »

Ahh sorry I think I got the names mixed up in my head or had thought they were the same product!

I did suspect it would be a little bit like that - I think any time you have a larger group of posters it always seems that the community feel is lost a little and people are a bit more aggressive!

In good news though this morning I woke up to....

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 0ppm (!!!)
Nitrate 20ppm

I'm a little concerned that these results are only because I topped up some evaporation loss I'd left for a few days (that would I guess explain why my nitrate is so low... so I'm not getting too excited yet!) Would that have brought my nitrite levels down to 0 or am I being too pessimistic?

Whatever the case what should I do now!?

jesnon · « **Reply #179 on:** March 21, 2013, 11:46:53 AM »

In other good news though, the new shop I want to check apparently has in stock Japanese blue and yellow endlers... do you happen to know much about these guys!?

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