Andy M Fishless Cycle

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Re: Andy M fishless cycle
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2013, 01:01:23 PM »
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I am surprised that ammonia has started to drop so quickly but it must have done for me to have a nitrite reading yeah?

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2013, 01:10:28 PM »
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That's right.
If you'd had just a tiny trace of nitrite, that could have been in your water supply, but not 5+ ppm - that much has to come from the ammonia you added, you must have some ammonia eaters growing.

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Re: Andy M fishless cycle
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2013, 01:14:21 PM »
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That's right.
If you'd had just a tiny trace of nitrite, that could have been in your water supply, but not 5+ ppm - that much has to come from the ammonia you added, you must have some ammonia eaters growing.

Happy days. I wonder if the nutrafin cycle i put in ten days ago has helped at all

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2013, 02:34:57 PM »
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It might have done. There are some bottled bacteria products that do grow the ammonia eaters quite quickly. The problem is that it's harder to bottle the nitrite eaters and them still be viable by the time they get to your tank. Just because the ammonia eaters grew quickly, it doesn't necessarily mean the nitrite eaters will too. You may find the Cycle helps with them, but don't be worried if it takes longer for the nitrite eaters.

At least the first stage has been short even if the second stage takes longer  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2013, 02:46:08 PM »
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I am not worried. you are only a forum post away  ;D

Will see what ammonia is tonight, you never know, may be zero and another 0.5 ml going in  :)

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2013, 05:53:58 PM »
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Looks like you're off to a great start already!

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Re: Andy M fishless cycle
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2013, 07:36:18 PM »
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Here's hoping jesnon

Day 2

Ammonia 0.25 ppm

Nitrite  5 ppm

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2013, 08:37:56 PM »
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Looking good  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2013, 09:36:27 AM »
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Excellent news!

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Re: Andy M fishless cycle
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2013, 06:05:41 PM »
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Day 3

Ammonia I am calling 0.25, its not the yellow for zero but also not the same shade as 0.25 on the test card

Nitrite  5 ppm or more

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2013, 06:13:20 PM »
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Personally I can't tell the difference between the 0 and 0.25 on those colour charts! Looks like your cycle is going well so far :-) Your ammonia stage has been super quick!

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Re: Andy M fishless cycle
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2013, 06:24:56 PM »
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It has surprised me, like I said in earlier post, maybe the Nutrafin cycle helped. Just wondering if I will see yellow, heard of some that don't

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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2013, 07:00:30 PM »
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The zero on the API test is a funny one. I've read so many people saying they've never had the zero colour even when the tank has been running for years.
I would be inclined to wait till tomorrow's test and see if it looks the zero colour then. If it's the same colour as today, then that's likely to be what your zero colour looks like.
[Thought - any bottled water in your house? You could try testing that to see the zero colour. Not tapwater though as UK legislation does allow up 0.5ppm and yours might have a trace]

If the test shows the same colour tomorrow, or even the yellow of zero, add some ammonia, the same as the first dose you added.




Memory like a sieve - what did you say your water was, hard or soft? if it's soft, test your pH daily as well.

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Re: Andy M fishless cycle
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2013, 07:07:24 PM »
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It is very hard water Sue, 17.8 German degrees.  Will buy a bottle of water tomorrow and do just that. Its not easy to differentiate the zero and 0.25 colours

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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2013, 07:16:21 PM »
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Don't rush out and buy a bottle of water if you don't drink it - though it's probably the safest way to check what the zero colour actually looks like. I ran out of ammonia tester during my cycle (it was over half used when I started) and the new and old colour charts were not the same. This lack of consistency does make things tricky  :-\

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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2013, 07:20:57 PM »
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Well will see what tomorrow brings. If it were the same colour again would it harm to add another 0.5 ml? ( my initial dose)

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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2013, 07:24:44 PM »
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I would definitely add the ammonia if it's the same colour again.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2013, 07:27:38 PM »
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Thanks Sue, will do that

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2013, 07:41:44 PM »
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Have you had any thoughts on potential fish for your water / tanksize? All that research can make the cycle seem a little less slow ha

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2013, 07:52:54 PM »
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Well want a community tank but hardy fish to begin with. Any suggestions?

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