Temp Setting

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Offline Shelly

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Temp setting
« on: December 29, 2016, 02:22:46 PM »
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I have a 500 Litre tank and am waiting for the temp to get up to what I want 25 degrees c
Both of my Fluval heaters (1) E300 (2) E200 wont go above 23 degrees c
Looks Like Stocking with barbs, black skirt tetra fish that like around 23 degrees c

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Re: Temp setting
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 02:47:00 PM »
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Why won't the heaters go above 23C? Is there something wrong with them? Are they new? Do they work correctly in smaller volumes of water? Is the room that the tank is in particularly cold?
Apologies for so many questions, but it would be a shame for you to have to change your fish stock plans for the sake of your tank heaters.


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Re: Temp setting
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 04:53:38 PM »
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How long have you been waiting for the water to heat up, and what is the temperature of the room?

Most heaters are designed to be used where the room is 10oC or less below the desired water temp (ie for 25o tank temp the room should be at least 15o)

If you've been trying to heat the water for more than 48 hours and the room is warm, could it be that these heaters just can't cope with the volume. 500 litres need 500w, but you have that with 300 + 200w and a lot of people do this, having 2 heaters adding up to 1w per litre.

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Re: Temp setting
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 07:11:51 PM »
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I've just been browsing online at fish tanks and, although I was aware that the preferred position for a heater was diagonal, I happened to read that "a vertical heater will transmit heat directly onto the thermostat, thus causing the heater to switch off prematurely". I assume that it might only affect tank temperature by a degree or two, and so I doubt that this is the situation in your case, but thought I ought to mention this as it may be that some heaters are particularly prone to this. Easy to test out / rectify this if indeed this might be a factor but I doubt it is.

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Re: Temp setting
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 07:23:41 PM »
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Good point!

And are the heaters positioned where the water flow from the filter can easily move the warmed water around the tank?



Do you have the heaters set at 25 deg or have you turned them right up? And do they have a light to say when they are on, and if they do is the light on all the time or dos it turn on and off?
Heaters are notorious for being badly calibrated. The setting on the heater is rarely the temperature they heat the water to. You have to set the dial according to the thermometer not the dial. If you have set them at 25 deg, turn them up one degree at a time, waiting a few hours between each adjustment, until the water does reach 25. And then remember what the dial says in case you ever have to turn the temp up to treat whitespot so you know where to turn it back down to afterwards.

Stick on the outside thermometers are affected by the air temperature and do not show the water temperature accurately. Always use liquid thermometers that go inside the tank or digital thermometers.

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Re: Temp setting
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2016, 08:28:45 PM »
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@Shelly I agree with all the previous points.
I have similar conditions to you and the heaters are easily able to maintain temperature, I would guess they are only on for about 30% of the time with a room temperature of 20°C
The initial heatup will take a long time from cold tap water, 500kg of water raised 20°C will take 42 MegaJoules (this is officially 'a lot' :) ) and you are putting in 500Joules per second (Watts) so it will take at least 24 hours if the tank were not losing heat from evaporation and into the room, about 150 watts in my case. So allow 36 hours and of course do what Sue and fcmf have suggested :)

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