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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2019, 07:32:56 PM »
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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2019, 07:45:52 PM »
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Watch from 8mins.  Don't worry too much about the planted tank chat - this mainly applies to a high tech setup.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93sRQakD1lo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93sRQakD1lo</a>
https://www.aquariumgardens.co.uk/oase-biomaster-thermo-250-aquarium-external-filter-2387-p.asp


Thanks @Matt and @Littlefish that all helps. As I will be running a low tech tank, is flow not as important as in a high tech one?

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2019, 07:51:05 PM »
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In a low tech tank it's easier (in my opinion) to focus on what your fish prefer rather than what the plants need. :)

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2019, 09:05:01 PM »
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Any ideas where you read those reviews?
In the very same place as I think you posted 6 hours ago. ;)
If you do a search within that group for OASE, you'll see previous comments on their filter.


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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2019, 10:30:54 PM »
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I am wondering if the Fluval 107 would work.

Hi @barneyadi

Are the Fluval external filters still supplied with those awful, corrugated, inflexible hoses?

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2019, 10:45:17 PM »
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I have seen another filter, an Oase BioMaster Thermo 250 which has a heater built in.

Hi @barneyadi

I have heard good things about the Oase filters. They built up an excellent reputation with their pond filters. Out of interest, is it possible to see when the built-in heater is ON (i.e. actually heating) from the exterior of the filter? Is there an indicator or window through which one can see, at a glance, when the heater is ON?

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2019, 07:07:28 PM »
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I have seen another filter, an Oase BioMaster Thermo 250 which has a heater built in.

Hi @barneyadi

I have heard good things about the Oase filters. They built up an excellent reputation with their pond filters. Out of interest, is it possible to see when the built-in heater is ON (i.e. actually heating) from the exterior of the filter? Is there an indicator or window through which one can see, at a glance, when the heater is ON?

JPC

I dont think you can see if heater is on, from things i have looked at online. If I get one I will let you know.

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2019, 10:22:10 PM »
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I have seen another filter, an Oase BioMaster Thermo 250 which has a heater built in.

Hi @barneyadi

I have heard good things about the Oase filters. They built up an excellent reputation with their pond filters. Out of interest, is it possible to see when the built-in heater is ON (i.e. actually heating) from the exterior of the filter? Is there an indicator or window through which one can see, at a glance, when the heater is ON?

JPC

I dont think you can see if heater is on, from things i have looked at online. If I get one I will let you know.

Hi @barneyadi

There are quite a few times when I find it handy to be able to see at a glance if the heater is actually ON. But, that may not be important to you.

JPC

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2019, 04:50:13 PM »
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Can I ask one last question about filters. I understand that flow rates are important to a degree, depending on the fish. Supposedly upto 10 times the tank literage is a supposedly good mark. Would this apply to both internal and external filters, or can you get away with a lower rate on an internal?

The externals I have looked at are about 7 to 8 times which seems sufficient.

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2019, 04:56:42 PM »
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The x times turnover per hour. There is no 'good' figure to aim for. Instead, consider the fish. Sedate fish need a low flow rate. Fish from fast running streams need a higher flow rate.

Unless you have fish from fast running streams, 7 to 8 times per hour is too much.

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2019, 05:00:15 PM »
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The x times turnover per hour. There is no 'good' figure to aim for. Instead, consider the fish. Sedate fish need a low flow rate. Fish from fast running streams need a higher flow rate.

Unless you have fish from fast running streams, 7 to 8 times per hour is too much.

Thanks Sue

That makes sense. The 7 to 8 times is maximum so can work it at a reduced flow. Time for a decision I think.

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2019, 05:14:48 PM »
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That's a different matter. As long as they can be turned down it's fine  :)

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2019, 05:51:19 PM »
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If the filter flow rated can't be adjusted, they are other ways to reduce the impact of the flow to keep your fish happy. It's relatively easy to increase the width of the output nozzle or spray bay holes so the water movement is reduced, or baffle it with the addition of some coarse filter sponge, or even putting the output slightly lower in the tank and pointing more upwards, rather than having the flow going directly across the tank.
On the axolotl forum it's quite common for people to be told to point their output more towards the back or side of the tank to reduce the water flow, as strong water movement can be very stressful for them.

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2019, 08:23:26 PM »
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Thanks for everyone's help regarding filters. Has been extremely interesting and believe I have decided which way to go.

Although could still change my mind.  ;D

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2019, 08:53:24 PM »
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Oooh the suspense.....  :rotfl:

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2019, 08:57:58 PM »
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Ladies & gentlemen, the winning filter is........  ;)

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2019, 09:00:16 PM »
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Well unless I talk myself out of it, it will be...………………

BioPlus Thermo 200 Internal Corner Filter

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2019, 09:08:12 PM »
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Oh, just had to go check it out.
That corner design looks good.
Let us know how you get on with it.  :)

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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2019, 09:23:36 PM »
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Ah - I've just remembered now that I was swaying between that and the JBL corner filter which I ultimately ended up getting. There is one downside of the JBL corner filter - not sure if the same would apply to the one you've chosen but, if so, there is a way of rectifying it. Mine has suction cups on the uppermost section but not on the 'basket' sections below that. This resulted in the filter floating out from the corner at the base, with fish and snails ending up behind it. I rectified this by contacting a couple of magnet companies who were extremely helpful about waterproof, very strong magnets - one half of which are inside the filter and the other half of which are on the external part of the tank. If this ends up being a problem for you (and hopefully it won't), I can give you the contact details of the very helpful magnet companies and the magnets themselves.

Aside from that initial problem, I do like the corner design aesthetically.


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Re: External vs internal filter
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2019, 09:16:41 AM »
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I have not come across those filters before as I've had mine for years and not needed to replace them. The filters I have also have the modular design, which I like. But mine don't have the option for housing a heater - that will make the tank look a lot less cluttered.

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