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Offline Pixiecatjo

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Problems with my plants :(
« on: October 15, 2015, 01:08:21 PM »
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Hi Guys, I'm in need of a little help, I am running my Juwel Rio 180 with 2 T5 lights in the hood, front one for fish colour and back one to enhance plant growth, I have 1" of aquatic compost under my fine gravel, all my water conditions are good with minimal to 0 readings, a good oversized external filter and 2 heaters. I also use liquid fertilizer on occasion.
My tank was running some 3 years ago, for around 5 years and I loved my live plants, (no c02 injection), but had great success, due to house moves the tank was broken down, and my fish re-housed, now it's all set back up I am have real problems with plants, once they are in the tank the leaves thin and drop quickly, and they go very leggy, (tall and thin with only a few leaves at the top of the plant), and I just can't work out why. :-\
I have bought from the same fish shop that i used to, as well a trying a couple of new ones and the out come is always the same! It's getting really frustrating, and I just can't work it out. I enjoy having a planted tank and would like for my plants to do well again, for the look of the tank and I believe the fish are happier with the cover they provide.
Sorry for the long ramble, but I'm all out of ideas...............Thanks in advance 

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Re: Problems with my plants :(
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2015, 04:14:42 PM »
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2x T5s sounds a lot of light for a situation with no CO2 and infrequent feeding.

Success with plants is all about balance.

You are attempting to balance the needs of the plants in regards to  lighting (strength of light and hours of light given) with the amount of food they require. If you give them a lot of light then they will need a lot of food to replenish the energy they have expelled in photosynthesising.

I have a far lower light setup than you, add ferts daily along with liquid CO2 and have none of the issues you describe.

Of course, much depends on how many plants and the type of plants you are trying to grow.


I can't  imagine any living thing thriving if you only fed it very rarely.
I'm not sure why anyone would expect aquarium plants to be any different.

Some ideas:

http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/blog/diagnosing-problems-with-aquarium-plants

http://freshwater-aquarium-passion.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/diagnosing-problems-at-plants.html

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/plant_problems.html


Some ideas about why you found more success last time:

Where you putting the lights on for fewer hours a day?

Were they old bulbs and therefore less bright?

Maybe you lived in an area where the tap water was more nutrient rich.

Did you have more livestock which were helping feed the plants via their waste?




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Re: Problems with my plants :(
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 09:39:30 PM »
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Have you replaced the bulbs? I've read that its worth changing the tubes at least once a year and some say every 6 months. Hence why I opted for LEDs. Might be worth a go...

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Re: Problems with my plants :(
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2015, 05:45:03 AM »
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If plants are growing tall and thin (etiolated) then the problem is light and no amount of fertilisers or CO2 will help. As suggested above, the first thing to check is that if the bulbs are old they may be producing much less light than before, it's only when you change them that you realise the difference. However, T5 tubes seem to last much better than T8. Also check that the tubes and reflectors are clean, they can develop deposits on the surface which reduce light efficiency. The easiest change otherwise is to increase the time that the lights are on for each day. Finally, make sure that the plants you are trying to grow are easy types that don't need extra lighting.

I've never fertilised my plants, which still grow strongly. I rarely vacuum the gravel and the fish poo provides all the fertiliser needed.

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Re: Problems with my plants :(
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2015, 10:12:32 AM »
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Plants need food and light (water too of course, but that's not a concern in an an aquarium)

If you are growing only a few easy plants and/or live in an area where your water supply gets a lot of runoff from agricultural land, then I guess you could get away without feeding your plants.

Clearly, Richard W has found success here, but I'm sure you'll find his approach will work only very rarely and only if you're very fortunate.

If you look at any specialist forum, dedicated to planted aquariums, you won't find many people, if anyone, recommending you rely on only the fish poo to act as your fertiliser.

If you have gone to the time and effort and expense of adding the plants to your aquarium, why would you then go on to neglect them or just hope for the best?

Plant food doesn't have to be expensive, and it can be as simple as adding it once a week, build it into your routine, say after a weekly water change and its not an onerous task.

And, I do agree with the above recommendation to ensure your bulbs are in good condition.
Anything over a year old won't be producing anywhere near enough light.

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Re: Problems with my plants :(
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2015, 04:00:31 PM »
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I am completely on the fence with this conversation as there just isn't enough information to make clear recommendations. Are the tubes old? What substrate is being used? If using planting medium, what is it? Is it new?

Richard appears to have had great success without adding any plant ferts, however, if memory serves me he has a rich soil at the base of his tank which (along with fish waste) may be providing all that his plants require. I have a pure gravel substrate and have had to add kugeln balls to supplement my root feeders (echinodorus & cryptocoryne). However, my Hygrophila polysperma would probably grow fine in old dishwater in a darkened room! I believe that ferts and CO2 will definitely improve plant growth/health, however they may not be required if you choose easy care plants.   

If your tubes are old, its probably the tubes. A rich sub-layer will help your plants grow, especially root feeders. CO2 and ferts aren't going to have a negative effect, but depending on the plants selected, may only have a marginal effect.

I use both liquid CO2 and ferts in my tank as I find they do improve the health of my plants and limit algae growth.

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