Indian Almond Leaves

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Indian Almond Leaves
« on: March 25, 2015, 08:45:21 PM »
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I know this has probably been asked before, and I did search - honest,  but nothing came up.

Are almond leaves that beneficial to a tank ie anti  bacterial/fungal

I know they colour the water and I understand they lower PH too. Mine is around 7.6

Should I bother?

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2018, 06:56:29 PM »
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Fantastic, thank you.

Verdict: more patience!

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2018, 10:26:14 PM »
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24hrs or so after adding half a large indian almond leaf (to 210l of water), the maximum ph has dropped from 7.96 to 7.90. Looking like a fairly gentle reduction, which is good. The minimum pH doesn't really seem to have changed, but that could be timing at this stage because the minimum pH is about 7am.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2018, 04:49:21 AM »
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How have things changed over the last few days @Helen ?

Have you seen any impact on hardness?

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2018, 10:10:47 PM »
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I'd not thought to check the hardness, but will do that.

pH hasn't gone down much so I put the second half of the leaf in.

Strangely, the pH in my tank seems to go up slightly when the hardness drops. Any explanation? I keep going over the detailed scientific explanations @Sue has previously given and still can't work out what is going on.

Anyway, someone is clearly enjoying the addition of the leaves even if i can't work out the chemistry.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2018, 10:22:35 PM »
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He's taken a real shine to that spot there H...   :D

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2018, 10:38:56 PM »
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So cute.  :)

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2018, 10:38:37 PM »
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Nice shot!  :cheers:

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2018, 10:14:06 PM »
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I kind of assumed the leaves would last for a while. But the first one has significantly disintegrated. The second half needs the sand knocking off it before I can see how much is left. Is it normal for them to only last a couple weeks?

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2018, 10:23:21 PM »
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I put 3 large leaves in the Pond. They are lasting about 3 weeks. I leave the disintegrated leaves for the Shrimp / Snails to browse on.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2018, 10:35:11 PM »
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I kind of assumed the leaves would last for a while. But the first one has significantly disintegrated. The second half needs the sand knocking off it before I can see how much is left. Is it normal for them to only last a couple weeks?
2 weeks appears to be normal. This is certainly the case for me (albeit I boil them beforehand) and I subsequently learned on here that it's the same for others (e.g. Sue, from recollection).

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2018, 08:35:21 AM »
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Yes, mine only lasted a couple of weeks, and their demise was hastened by shrimps and snails. I usually left them in till there was nothing but the leaf skeleton, though I did put a new piece in when the old one was half gone.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2018, 10:46:13 AM »
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Those that use cattapa leaves, do you buy them in bulk? If so, where from?

The pH of my tank has bobbed up again and i can only assume it is because my leaf has almost gone. So it is looking like a good option for managing the pH in my tank.

I think my 240l tank could also cope with more than one leaf, so as they only last a few weeks, I'm going to be going through quite a few!

(An aside, I have a lot of bogwood in my tank and I wonder if that maturing has contributed to my increasing pH. If it is no longer releasing as many tanins, it won't be keeping the pH low)

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2018, 10:57:43 AM »
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I buy mine from www.pro-shrimp.co.uk which is where I buy most of my online purchases from due to their consistently good service and good value.

Incidentally, I've found that the nano-sized ones (approx small-finger size in length, as opposed to whole-hand size in length) last longer than a fortnight. [Edited to add: actually, just checked and it seems that my nano/mini sized ones were purchased via Amazon - Sungrow mini catappa leaves - but it seems from a brief google search that they are no longer in stock either on Amazon or e-bay.]

Personally, I've not found PH to be affected by existence of catappa leaves in the tank, so wonder if your bogwood theory might be a possibility. Also, as my little 54L ordinarily has 2 large ones or 3-4 small ones, I think your larger tank would definitely be fine with more than you have.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2018, 11:41:35 AM »
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Thanks for the recommendation @fcmf . They have a really good selection of catappa leaves, several different brands and also the mini leaves. I'm also intrigued by the catappa logs / bark / wood. Does anyone have any experience with them as opposed to the leaves? I like the sound of longer lasting.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2018, 11:49:25 AM »
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I buy mine from www.pro-shrimp.co.uk which is where I buy most of my online purchases from due to their consistently good service and good value.

Ditto that...  :)

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2018, 12:26:19 PM »
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Haven’t used the bark or logs, but I use Catappa extract in my 270 litre tank.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2018, 02:27:43 PM »
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I have used all sized leaves, along with the bark, logs, and the  banana leaves from Pro-Shrimp.
I've not noticed any change to my water (very hard, high pH), but the shrimp seem to like whatever I put in the tanks.

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2018, 10:22:53 PM »
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How often do you add the Catappa extract @daveng?

I wonder if I see the effect on pH because my water is pretty soft to start with?

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Re: Indian Almond Leaves
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2018, 10:30:11 PM »
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I add 30ml of the extract weekly. I use Easy-Life Cattapa-X. Don’t know if there are others on the market.

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