Clown Loaches And Copper Based Meds - ESHa 2000

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Clown loaches and copper based meds - eSHa 2000
« on: November 04, 2015, 09:50:50 AM »
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I noticed that the golden barbs in my son's tank have fin-rot, th clown loach, dwarf puffers, bumblee bee and ottos are fine, I think the most likely cause is he's a bit lazy about water changes so I will probably take over the care myself. The barbs however need to be treated but I seem to recall reading somewhere that clown loaches are very sensitive to copper based meds.

I've just done a clean and water change and I want to add some meds but need a bit of advice on it. Ta.

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Re: Clown loaches and copper based meds
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 10:14:40 AM »
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Is there any chance of moving the barbs to another tank to treat them? That's the prefered option when trying to treat with things like loaches in the tank.

My favourite meds are eSHa 2000 and Myxazin.

eSHa 2000 (according to a source I once read and saved) contains ethacridine lactate, proflavin, copper 2+ and methyl orange.
Myxazin (same source) contains malachite green, formaldehyde and acriflavine.

Unless the companies have changed their ingredients since that was written, it looks as though Myxazin by Waterlife might be the one to try. Malachite green does not contain copper; it is a dye which only has that name because it is the same colour as the copper ore malachite.


Having said that, I have used copper containing whitespot meds in a tank with dwarf chain loaches, but at half dose. The loaches are still going strong years later.



You may find that you don't need to treat at all. It is quite possible that several more big water changes are all the barbs need to recover.





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You said clown loach, singular. If he only has the one, could you persuade your son to rehome the loach. They do need to be in groups in very big tanks; they are very social fish and they do need company of their own kind.

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Re: Clown loaches and copper based meds
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 07:08:11 PM »
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I've used a half dose of esha 2000, I'll do same for day 2 and 3 and keep an eye on them. I'll do another water change on Sunday, shame I can't put some PURE balls in the filter but I'd have to move a chest of drawers plus I've no idea how an external filter works. Could I just drop some in the tank?

He actually has 5 clown loaches, a 6 inch one and 4 small ones about 2 inches, he'll either re-home them when they start getting too big or get a bigger tank. The 6inch clown came with the tank and it'd been on its own for about 6 years apparently. It lived in a hollow resin log when we first got it but since we put in the little ones, they all seem to nap in the plants at the back. We put a lot of plants in when we set up the tank . Considering how brightly coloured the little ones are they're amazing well camouflaged.

The big clown has been fed or regular flaked fish food for the last 10 years but I'm hoping his colouration will improve, he's a washed out yellow and charcoal atm. We feed them, bloodworms, brine shrimp, daphnea, courgette and cucumber and catfish pellets. Not all in one go I hasten to add.

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