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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2016, 09:46:44 PM »
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Quote from: apache6467 on June 15, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
We should do this more often with these quizzes, its kinda fun :D
I had been thinking that too, Apache - maybe once every month.  However, I'm driving myself demented in my quest to identify the fish...  I'm convinced I've aged by about ten years in the process.  Every so often, I exclaim "Aaah - got it at long last!" but then realise I'm wrong.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2016, 12:17:50 AM »
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I'd just like to point out that you're all big cheats.

 :raspberries

....and I didn't intentionally give any clue.

So if you would kindly forget what it is and try to ID it in the normal laborious manner...


For the record, albino animals are white, because they have no pigmentation whatsoever. They have pink or red eyes, because without pigmentation in the iris you can see the red of the blood vessels in the retina.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2016, 12:27:20 AM »
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Quote from: Sue on June 15, 2016, 07:01:07 PM
I doubt you will find it in a shop, except for a very specialist one. There are probably only a handful of people in the country that own these fish. I had never heard of it until I managed to work out what the fish in the photo was.

Actually from my own research I believe they're possibly the only two that have ever been in Britain. And they came here unidentified.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2016, 07:52:57 AM »
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Quote from: fcmf on June 15, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: apache6467 on June 15, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
We should do this more often with these quizzes, its kinda fun :D
I had been thinking that too, Apache - maybe once every month.  However, I'm driving myself demented in my quest to identify the fish...  I'm convinced I've aged by about ten years in the process.  Every so often, I exclaim "Aaah - got it at long last!" but then realise I'm wrong.

Yep! Quiz of the month posted by who ever got the previous month's quiz correct first. That'll mean Sue gets to do it each month! :))
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2016, 08:23:19 AM »
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Why not just have it ongoing, where the person who gets it posts another? If someone gets it on the first day, a month is a long time to wait for the next one.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2016, 08:57:46 AM »
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Quote from: hampalong on June 16, 2016, 08:23:19 AM
Why not just have it ongoing, where the person who gets it posts another? If someone gets it on the first day, a month is a long time to wait for the next one.


Quote from: ColinB on June 16, 2016, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: fcmf on June 15, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: apache6467 on June 15, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
We should do this more often with these quizzes, its kinda fun :D
I had been thinking that too, Apache - maybe once every month.  However, I'm driving myself demented in my quest to identify the fish...  I'm convinced I've aged by about ten years in the process.  Every so often, I exclaim "Aaah - got it at long last!" but then realise I'm wrong.

Yep! Quiz of the month posted by who ever got the previous month's quiz correct first. That'll mean Sue gets to do it each month! :))


Great ideas, I like the ongoing suggestion...


Just create new threads each time, so they can me marked as solved at the end and mods can update the thread with the common and scientific names :)


Also keep them on this particular board too.  :cheers:
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2016, 09:07:11 AM »
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Quote from: hampalong on June 16, 2016, 12:17:50 AM
I'd just like to point out that you're all big cheats.

 :raspberries

....and I didn't intentionally give any clue.

So if you would kindly forget what it is and try to ID it in the normal laborious manner...


Ah but they are so rare that we'd never get it by the normal laborious manner  ;D


I do family history research so I'm used to grabbing the tiniest clue to find the way forward. I had read everything you wrote in your posts and two words in there gave me the clue I needed once I had worked out where I needed to go  :)



Since you have the only ones in the country, how on earth did you manage to identify them?
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2016, 09:09:36 AM »
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Another forum I'm a member of did ID competitions which ran for ages. Some people used their own fish but most used images from other sites.

If you do this, remember to remove everything from the image that bears the name of the fish. You'd be surprised how many times all you had to do was hover over the image for the name to show.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2016, 10:04:17 AM »
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Quote from: Sue on June 16, 2016, 09:09:36 AM
If you do this, remember to remove everything from the image that bears the name of the fish. You'd be surprised how many times all you had to do was hover over the image for the name to show.
how do you do that?!?
Quote from: Robert on June 16, 2016, 08:57:46 AM
Quote from: hampalong on June 16, 2016, 08:23:19 AM
Why not just have it ongoing, where the person who gets it posts another? If someone gets it on the first day, a month is a long time to wait for the next one.

That's the Spirit! But mine will be too easy!  :)) :)) :))

Quote from: ColinB on June 16, 2016, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: fcmf on June 15, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: apache6467 on June 15, 2016, 09:22:45 PM
We should do this more often with these quizzes, its kinda fun :D
I had been thinking that too, Apache - maybe once every month.  However, I'm driving myself demented in my quest to identify the fish...  I'm convinced I've aged by about ten years in the process.  Every so often, I exclaim "Aaah - got it at long last!" but then realise I'm wrong.

Yep! Quiz of the month posted by who ever got the previous month's quiz correct first. That'll mean Sue gets to do it each month! :))


Great ideas, I like the ongoing suggestion...


Just create new threads each time, so they can me marked as solved at the end and mods can update the thread with the common and scientific names :)


Also keep them on this particular board too.  :cheers:

That's the Spirit! But mine will be too easy!  :)) :)) :))
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2016, 10:08:39 AM »
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Apache, I haven't a clue how to do that with images from other sites, I just know what happened on the other forum. But someone who does know will be able to tell us.

If you use photos of your own you just have to change the name before adding it to your post.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2016, 10:49:19 AM »
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Quote from: Sue on June 16, 2016, 09:07:11 AM




Since you have the only ones in the country, how on earth did you manage to identify them?

It was pretty easy really. The genus seemed obvious, and if you know where to look....

I said they were unidentified. Actually they were just wrongly identified, and came in as the 'usual' member of their genus (the word 'usual' is purely relative, since they're also rarely imported). The shop didn't realise they were different.


Re the quiz, there's one on another forum where the link to the picture is posted rather than the picture itself, to prevent possible copyright infringement.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2016, 01:32:12 PM »
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Quote from: hampalong on June 16, 2016, 10:49:19 AM
The shop didn't realise they were different.

happens a lot..dwarf puffers, stiphs and now my mystery gourami  ::)
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2016, 01:56:48 PM »
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So do we reveal the identity of the fish in the photo - it's hampalong's fish so maybe he should do the honours.

Anyone want to wait a bit longer?
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2016, 04:13:24 PM »
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I think Hampalong should do the honours.

I'd love to hear more about his home and his habits (the fish's not hampalongs!)  ;D
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2016, 04:17:56 PM »
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In that case, would @hampalong please reveal the name of the fish in his photo  :)




Then I'll tell you of the devious, unethical means I used to find it  ;D
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2016, 04:22:43 PM »
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Quote from: Sue on June 16, 2016, 04:17:56 PM

Then I'll tell you of the devious, unethical means I used to find it  ;D

Haha I'm wondering if we might just have used the same method now.  ;)
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2016, 04:26:46 PM »
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I know how Robert found it (he told me) so that leaves you and Colin to come clean as well.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2016, 05:07:09 PM »
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Well I did say I cheated!  :rotfl:

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2016, 05:08:56 PM »
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I did something else  ;)

If I say what I did now, it'll spoil hampalong's reveal.
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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2016, 05:19:04 PM »
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Quote from: Sue on June 16, 2016, 04:17:56 PM
In that case, would @hampalong please reveal the name of the fish in his photo  :)

Well, I can only assume you've got it right, those that think they have... :)

The clue is in the name - not the fish's name, but my name.....

The fish is called

Hampala ampalong

It's a predatory Barb from Sumatra and Borneo. While researching it's ID I only found a handful of pictures online, of a couple of specimens caught in a Thai fishing lake that were about 12-15" or so (quite small for a Hampala).

Two 3" ones arrived at my local MHA (Maidenhead Aquatics), thought to be H. macrolepidota, but I knew they weren't by the markings and the fact that they were behaving like mid-water predators rather than bottom-hugging ones.

They were so cute I just had to have them. They were always together, just like they were when I got them home...





They had a very interesting feeding habit. When the tank was filled with a cloud of Prima, the dollars would sail around gobbling up all in their path  (like Homer in the space shuttle?). The Hampalas would eye up one piece then lunge at it, then eye up another piece to the side (always to the side), turn on the spot and lunge at that... and so on...

They turned out to be a male and female. Sadly the male died last year from multiple blockages from swallowing whole cockles at night meant for the Black Ghost. It wasn't nice at all having to euthanise him. He was about 6", the female is about 8".
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