Fish Identification From Photograph

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Offline Hampalong

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2016, 10:49:19 AM »
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Since you have the only ones in the country, how on earth did you manage to identify them?

It was pretty easy really. The genus seemed obvious, and if you know where to look....

I said they were unidentified. Actually they were just wrongly identified, and came in as the 'usual' member of their genus (the word 'usual' is purely relative, since they're also rarely imported). The shop didn't realise they were different.


Re the quiz, there's one on another forum where the link to the picture is posted rather than the picture itself, to prevent possible copyright infringement.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2016, 01:32:12 PM »
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The shop didn't realise they were different.

happens a lot..dwarf puffers, stiphs and now my mystery gourami  ::)

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2016, 01:56:48 PM »
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So do we reveal the identity of the fish in the photo - it's hampalong's fish so maybe he should do the honours.

Anyone want to wait a bit longer?

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2016, 04:13:24 PM »
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I think Hampalong should do the honours.

I'd love to hear more about his home and his habits (the fish's not hampalongs!)  ;D

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2016, 04:17:56 PM »
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In that case, would @hampalong please reveal the name of the fish in his photo  :)




Then I'll tell you of the devious, unethical means I used to find it  ;D

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2016, 04:22:43 PM »
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Then I'll tell you of the devious, unethical means I used to find it  ;D

Haha I'm wondering if we might just have used the same method now.  ;)

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2016, 04:26:46 PM »
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I know how Robert found it (he told me) so that leaves you and Colin to come clean as well.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2016, 05:07:09 PM »
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Well I did say I cheated!  :rotfl:


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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2016, 05:08:56 PM »
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I did something else  ;)

If I say what I did now, it'll spoil hampalong's reveal.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2016, 05:19:04 PM »
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In that case, would @hampalong please reveal the name of the fish in his photo  :)

Well, I can only assume you've got it right, those that think they have... :)

The clue is in the name - not the fish's name, but my name.....

The fish is called

Hampala ampalong

It's a predatory Barb from Sumatra and Borneo. While researching it's ID I only found a handful of pictures online, of a couple of specimens caught in a Thai fishing lake that were about 12-15" or so (quite small for a Hampala).

Two 3" ones arrived at my local MHA (Maidenhead Aquatics), thought to be H. macrolepidota, but I knew they weren't by the markings and the fact that they were behaving like mid-water predators rather than bottom-hugging ones.

They were so cute I just had to have them. They were always together, just like they were when I got them home...





They had a very interesting feeding habit. When the tank was filled with a cloud of Prima, the dollars would sail around gobbling up all in their path  (like Homer in the space shuttle?). The Hampalas would eye up one piece then lunge at it, then eye up another piece to the side (always to the side), turn on the spot and lunge at that... and so on...

They turned out to be a male and female. Sadly the male died last year from multiple blockages from swallowing whole cockles at night meant for the Black Ghost. It wasn't nice at all having to euthanise him. He was about 6", the female is about 8".

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2016, 05:31:43 PM »
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She's a beauty! :cheers:

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2016, 05:37:03 PM »
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This is what I did.

Hampalong said he was on the PFK forum, but I didn't think he'd use the same user name.
The fish looked very much like barbs, which are cyprinids.
Hampalong said they weren't oddballs but they were as good as, which to me meant they were very rare.

So I went to PFK forum, cyprinid section, and went through the posts one by one. On the third page I found a post titled Rare barbs - any interest - and the poster's name was black ghost. Hampalong did say he used to have an oddball, the black ghost knife fish.

So I clicked on the post and read
"I have a pair (1m, 1f) of Hampala ampalong...." I stopped reading at that point as I was sure I'd found it

Thinkfish user name hampalong
Fish name Hampala ampalong

It had to be.

Then I googled  that fish name and found this link to another PFK thread and in post 14 was another picture with a title.



I tried giving clues. I said to think of a place to look - since hampalong is a PFK member, that was the obvious place to go.
I'd already said it was a barb, and said that barbs are cyprinids.
I said read everything hampalong had written - he listed black ghost among his previous fish. And I said that two words had given me a clue - again, black ghost.


That's how you cheat and be devious  ;D





Edit - have now corrected the spelling of the user name and fish name  :-[ I think I have mentioned in the past that I type all the right letters but not necessarily in the right order.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2016, 05:46:16 PM »
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Great sleuthing Sue, I can't reveal my method, else everyone will use it and competitions will be over in a zaliladash.


Fun stuff!


Ps. I don't know what a zaliladash is either, but it sounds fast ;)

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2016, 05:55:11 PM »
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...Hampala amplaong....user name hampalalong
Fish name Hampala amaplaong....

Autocorrupt is a wonderful thing.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2016, 06:00:16 PM »
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I got it by a clue given by someone (sorry - forgotten who) who said they didn't want to hamper our search, and were off to watch gazelles and impala. As these were strange things to say I played around with these words plus fish in google and it autocorrected me to Hampala. I got the wrong one first off, then a bit more searching with google images and I found a piccie linked to PFK. QED.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2016, 06:35:27 PM »
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It was Rob and I was kind of wondering why he'd shared that  ::) I thought it was quite a reasonable comment  :))

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2016, 06:39:07 PM »
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...Hampala amplaong....user name hampalalong
Fish name Hampala amaplaong....

Autocorrupt is a wonderful thing.

 :rotfl:

Great, now I've got that song stuck in my head....

A la la la la long..... A la la la la long long Li long long long...  COME ON!!

I don't care if you're singing it yourself now... Sharing is caring  :raspberries

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2016, 07:20:31 PM »
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After all my aforementioned hunting, following Sue's e-mails, I started looking up all sorts of leads including black ghost's posts (and cichlid man's), going through the PFK cyprinid section (think I stopped at pg 2, though), and doing numerous searches for pics from Mark through the website - kept getting aquascaping tanks up from another Mark. I couldn't get "puntius" out of my head, though, although Sue had kindly advised me it was not a 'puntius'. In the PFK cyprinid section (I think), I found this http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/puntius-exclamatio/ under the name 'Dawkinsia exclamatio' and was convinced I'd found the answer until I realised that it too was a 'puntius'.


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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2016, 07:34:39 PM »
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...Hampala amplaong....user name hampalalong
Fish name Hampala amaplaong....

Autocorrupt is a wonderful thing.

 :rotfl:



Me and my typing. I have now corrected the spellings.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2016, 07:42:31 PM »
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I got it by a clue given by someone (sorry - forgotten who) who said they didn't want to hamper our search, and were off to watch gazelles and impala. As these were strange things to say I played around with these words plus fish in google and it autocorrected me to Hampala. I got the wrong one first off, then a bit more searching with google images and I found a piccie linked to PFK. QED.

I've no idea what you're on about ColinB!

It was all true! David Attenborough rocks!! 😀

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2016, 08:51:27 PM »
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Darn it, I've missed all the fun.
I've been dealing with the axolotl tanks. The one tank is complete and the mature axolotls are moved. I still have to empty the old tank and clean out the sand so I can attach the background. I think it's going to be a long night, or a long day tomorrow.

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2016, 09:42:38 PM »
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Wow. I wouldn't have gotten that but I thought it was a filament barb!  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #72 on: June 16, 2016, 11:04:43 PM »
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I got it by a clue given by someone (sorry - forgotten who) who said they didn't want to hamper our search, and were off to watch gazelles and impala.

I noticed the hamper, but the impala went right over my head (as they do). I thought it was true... and it was, apparently.


(not).   :)

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Re: Fish Identification from photograph
« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2016, 12:33:37 PM »
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It was Rob and I was kind of wondering why he'd shared that  ::) I thought it was quite a reasonable comment  :))


See! My exact sentiments, purely coincidental - everyone loves Mr Attenborough. ;)

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