CPD Thin And Strange Behavior

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2015, 08:22:51 PM »
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Indeed, it doesn't look good. :(

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2015, 07:05:36 PM »
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The 'ill' CPD has now disappeared and is not residing in its usual spot at the surface. I assume it is now acting as fertilizer.

I just hope it was due to a bad batch rather than disease or the 9 new CPD's I am getting on Sunday wont last very long...

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2015, 07:32:17 PM »
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Sorry to hear the little CPD didn't make it.

Don't you quarantine new fish before adding to the main tank?

http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/article/isolation-hospital-or-quarantine-fishtanks-for-your-fish

I set up a 20L QT tank for about £40.

It's packed away dry when not needed and the filter sits in my main tank adding extra flow for plant nutrients until it's needed, so the bacteria remains healthy.

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2015, 07:28:04 PM »
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Well in a bizarre turn of fate, I have just returned home from a 2 day trip to find the previously Dead CPD swimming around perfectly normally... Still a bit thin but now swimming around in the plants rather than at the surface.

How strange...

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2015, 08:39:13 PM »
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Strange indeed but good news nonetheless. Hope you can get him/her feeding?  :cheers:

What sex is it BTW ?

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2015, 08:49:54 PM »
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Difficult to tell, I think it is a male.
After observing it for a bit longer it still seems to prefer to stay near the surface, but is more willing to go deeper when a finger appears near it, whereas before it would just ignore it.

Still seems to be uninterested in food dropped in. I can only assume it is surviving off scraps at the bottom of the tank... Possibly due to the competition from the 4 minnows which regularly come to the surface for food.

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2015, 10:42:20 PM »
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I guess a poorly male could look like a female so I can understand why it would be difficult to sex.

Do you have a small tank you can set up as a quarantine tank?

I wonder if you could transfer sick CPD into a QT tank and add Liquifry No 1 to see if it might start eating infusoria to begin to build up an appetite for bigger things.

I know it sounds a bit odd but it must get hungry, perhaps it's just a case of trying to find something it will eat to get on the road to recovery.
I'm just thinking that maybe the fishy equivalent of baby food will kickstart something.

Sorry if it sounds like a stupid idea.

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2015, 10:44:26 PM »
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I do have an unused tank but it doesn't have a heater or filter, a combination of which will cost a lot more than this single fish. And as this isn't a particularly prized fish as it was always slightly weaker I don't think it would be worth the effort.

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2015, 11:25:44 PM »
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I do have an unused tank but it doesn't have a heater or filter, a combination of which will cost a lot more than this single fish. And as this isn't a particularly prized fish as it was always slightly weaker I don't think it would be worth the effort.

I understand completely.

Something to consider for the future:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CNVDMUE <- cheap 50w heater @ £7.95 + Free UK delivery
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A4AZH3Q <- cheap micro filter @ £13.94 + Free UK delivery

These are the parts I use in my QT tank for quarantining new fish for a fortnight before introducing the new fish to the main tank.
Apart from that, it's ready to be set up as a hospital tank too if needed.

I just keep the micro filter running in the main tank permanently, in addition to the main filter, at the opposite end to aid water flow, so that it has a healthy bacterial colony in readiness for when I need it.

The rest of the kit, the tank, the heater, the half plant pot and the fake plants are stored dry until I need them.

Just a suggestion, as you already have a tank, an extra £22 will give you the quarantine tank / hospital tank that might come in handy in future.

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2015, 05:39:06 PM »
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Unfortunately, when I returned from getting 7 new CPD's the 'ill' CPD was lying in moss not moving, I netted it and it was still not moving. So I ice+clove oiled it to make sure. oh well, the new CPD's seem to be much more active now they are in a group of 8...

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2015, 09:21:01 PM »
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So I ice+clove oiled it to make sure.

Just for future reference  :) in such a scenario, from what I've read, I think the ice is probably best left out. Hopefully the remainder of your CPDs will get on swimmingly, though.  :fishy1:

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2015, 10:59:21 PM »
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I have a CPD in my tank that looks just like your poorly one, I've had it for months now and its grown larger but has stayed that same weird concave shape, other then that its happy as Larry. If the guy in my MA hadn't told me it's supposedly wild caught, I'd be inclined to think it was deformed through in-breeding... would the suppliers lie to MA?

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2015, 09:28:16 AM »
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I wouldn't be surprised if a shop's supplier didn't know and made something up  :-\ But wild caught fish aren't immune from deformities, they are just less likely to be caused by inbreeding. There was just something about the photo of Barney's cpd that said to me developmental problems rather than sickness.

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Re: CPD thin and strange behavior
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2015, 01:06:36 AM »
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I'll try a get a photo of my one. They could be twins!

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