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New Tank, Looking For Comments And Advice On My Fish Selection.

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Offline fcmf

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2018, 09:51:53 PM »
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Lovely pic - I can see it now.  ;D

(What's the Latin name for the green chap on the right?  ;))

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« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2018, 09:53:32 PM »
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I can see ot now too.

And those fish are beautiful. I do have fish envy.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2018, 09:50:50 PM »
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Its back to work on my next fish selection.  I've come up with a few more after looking at people profiles to see what community they have.  I now have this list of options:

10x Neon or Cardinal Tetra
6x Honey Gourami
2x Kribensis or Agassiz's Dwarf Cichlid
6x Peacock Gudgeons/Goby
2m 1f Stiphodons

Bearing in mind, I'm not looking to stock all of these and I'm aware that the Tetras must go in last as my tank is still cycling.  Just wanted to check compatibility and what would be best to add next.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2018, 10:07:19 PM »
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A few comments:

Stiphodons - need more females than males, though they can be difficult to sex as males can change colour at the drop of a hat. Females - or at least mine - have black and white stripes, no colour. Males vary from palest blue to deep blue depending on mood and where they are in the pecking order. Mine were sold as "indie blue" and"indigo blue" and I have no idea what they really are. They also like a strong water flow so aren't really compatible with gouramis which prefer a gentle water flow. Having said that, i have a honey gourami female in my tank  :-[

I would go for either kribs or apistos or peacock gudgeons. I have gudgeons and they behave in a very similar way to the apistos I used to have. I would anticipate arguments if you get more than one of the three. they are all cave spawners, so you need caves. Peacock gudgeons like to spawn in spaces so narrow you'd wonder how both male and female could get in there together.
In your tank, 1 male + several female gudgeons, or 1 male + 1 female krib - and they need to be a bonded pair - or 1 male + 2 female apistos. You'd need 2 caves for kribs (to give them some choice), 2 for gudgeons as it's the male that guards the eggs and with just 1 male give him 2 to choose from, and with apistos one cave per female plus one.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2018, 10:28:59 PM »
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Thank Sue, I think I'll go with the Gourami's next, I wanted to check is 6 too many/few, and also can you mix types, i.e. could I get 2 x Pearl, 2 x Honey and 2 Other, or do they need to be the same to get along in the group?

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2018, 10:46:45 PM »
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Gourami species should not be mixed. And pairs are not good either as one will likely bully the other so 6 of one species is the way to go. Don't get too many males if you can avoid it.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2018, 10:52:53 PM »
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Thanks Matt.

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« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2018, 11:40:13 AM »
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Gourami species should never be mixed in the same tank.

Gourami males tend to be bullies. If they want to spawn and the female doesn't, males can be downright nasty. Males have been known to kill females. However, in my experience this does not apply to honey gouramis. I have had more trouble with females fighting than with a male harassing a single female. Yes, honey gourami males do chase females, but of all the honeys I've had over the years, the worst has been a nipped tail.

I would go with a m/f pair. If the male does bully the female, you can get another female or even two.
Honey gouramis come in three colours - natural, red and yellow.
The photos in the profile on here show the natural colour. These are the easiest colour to sex. Males are tan, females are silver beige. The males in the shop tank will be stressed and paler than the one in the photos. When the net goes in the tank all the males could lose all colour. females usually have a darker stripe from nose to tail, but not all females do.
Yellow honeys are the next easiest. Both male and female are yellow, but males tend to have an orangey back end and females have the same line as natural coloured females, just not as pronounced.

Take someone with with when you go gourami shopping. The way to chose these two colours is to stand and study the fish in the shop tank. Males will behave differently from females as well as being differently coloured. Males are more up front; females just get on with life.
Look at all the fish. Find the most brightly coloured male; find a female from those fish which show the stripe - males don't have the stripe. Now send your colleague to fetch a shop worker and keep your eyes on your chosen fish. make sure they catch the fish you want!


Red honeys are difficult to sex. You have to go by fin shape, which is not reliable. Males tend to have a pointier  end to the dorsal fin, females tend to have a rounder end. I have never bought red honeys because I can never be sure.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2018, 10:15:33 PM »
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Thanks Sue, will have a look at the LFS and make a call based on their stock.  Don't mind waiting a few weeks until they have a good stock and more selection.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2018, 04:55:24 PM »
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Hi everyone, hope you've all been well the past couple of week.

Its been a while but visited the LFS today and may have made a mistake with my purchase.   They only had a couple of honey gouramis in the tank with a few other gouramis and they didn't look in the best of health, hiding at the bottom behind the heater.  But in the tank next to them there were loads of Gold Gouramis that looked in great health.  My mistake here was that I thought all Gouramis where roughly the same, however, since looking up the Gold's it appears they can grow to 15cm  :yikes: and might take a look at my tetras (still to purchase)  as dinner.  Shop is closed now, but I take it these will be too big for my tank and I'm probably best advised to return (if they will take them) and wait it out for a fresh batch of Honeys?

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« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2018, 05:06:12 PM »
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No, gouramis are not all the same  :-\

Gold gouramis are a colour variant of three spot gouramis, and these are among the more aggressive gouramis - honey gouramis are at the other end of the aggression spectrum. Golds are also big fish as you have discovered. They need a tank at least 90 cm long, but yours at 82 cm would do at a pinch.

The fish you currently have - or at least the ones in your signature - should be OK as both cherry barbs and penguin tetras are not the smallest of fish, but I would not risk neons/cardinals with them. And being big fish they will also use up a fair amount of your stocking allowance.

How many did you get? If you have more than one male, there will be problems with them fighting. Even with just 2, male and females, there could well be problems as this species is well known for the male being aggressive if he wants to breed and the female doesn't; it is one of those species where there must be several females per male.



Personally, I would take them back. Just say you want a tank of small fish and didn't realise how big these get. If they take them back, they'll probably give you store credit for less than you paid for them.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2018, 05:52:08 PM »
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Yeah, I only got 2 , think 1M and 1F but shop was unsure too.  Really wanted the neon's for colour etc.  They were only 8 for the pair so no major issues.  Shop have been really good and I have a loyalty card and know them on 1st name basis so either way should be okay.  Just need to wait until they get a good stock of honeys in a then go for my original 4-6.  Thanks.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2018, 07:09:18 AM »
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 :o I hope that the shop are happy for you to return the gold gouramis.

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2018, 12:39:58 PM »
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LFS was great, gave me a credit note, new stock coming in on Friday, so hopefully the "correct" Gourami's next week  :cheers:

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2018, 02:43:00 PM »
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That's great news.  :cheers:

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2018, 11:39:01 PM »
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Not too sure which topic to put this one, but as its been a while, thought I'd put a bit of an update on.  Aquarium is looking great and I'm around 80-90% stock and fish seem really happy.  Lost a couple of cardinal tetras in the past couple of weeks, so not too sure if thats something, but keeping a close eye on the water readings and everything is still pretty stable.  Just wanted to say thanks again to everyone on here, without you I'd have been in the right state and wouldn't have a tank of happy fish.  Special thanks to @Littlefish for the media, think that helped a lot in the early stages.  I hope everyone has a great Christmas and Santa brings you lots of fish based presents  :rotfl: and wishing you all the very best for 2019  :cheers:

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2018, 09:38:49 AM »
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Great to have an update on your tank, and see a picture of your fish.  :)

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2018, 12:32:45 PM »
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Nice update  :)

I must admit my Christmas wish list was entirely fish related  :rotfl: in fact we should do a thread on this... I might set one up later!

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Re: New Tank, looking for comments and advice on my fish selection.
« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2018, 04:12:54 PM »
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Great to have your update and photos, @Bazza2000 - thanks. Glad all going well. Best wishes to you and everyone too.
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