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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2019, 03:53:53 PM »
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I just tried attaching a large photo (3.54 MB) and I got the error message because it is over 3.0 MB (ie 3000 KB)

Have you tried resizing the photos? Most laptops come with Paint already installed, right click on the photo, down to 'open with' and select Paint.
If you can find Paint on your laptop, I can tell you how to resize a photo to make it smaller - that is, fewer MB.

The file is already under 3mb though, itís about 2.5mb...

Also, Iím feeding Tetra Micro Crisps (complete good for small tropical fish)

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2019, 04:05:41 PM »
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I think the size requirements must be stated incorrectly. I just failed to attach a 2.29 MB photo.

I'll PM the site owner and ask.

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« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2019, 04:43:56 PM »
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I've just had a reply from Robert and he can't get it to work either. He doesn't know why the server won't allow photos just under the limit but says that 2000 KB or lower should work OK, so photos resized to that should attach OK.
He also gave a link to a site that can be used for resizing http://www.picresize.com/

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2019, 05:28:26 PM »
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I've just had a reply from Robert and he can't get it to work either. He doesn't know why the server won't allow photos just under the limit but says that 2000 KB or lower should work OK, so photos resized to that should attach OK.
He also gave a link to a site that can be used for resizing http://www.picresize.com/

Alright, awesome! Iíll give that a go later then and try and upload a now and before photo

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2019, 10:31:17 AM »
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Also worth checking the file type is one of those listed if your still struggling... I know I had a problem once with a file named *.jpeg rather than *.jpg

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2019, 11:33:29 PM »
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Also worth checking the file type is one of those listed if your still struggling... I know I had a problem once with a file named *.jpeg rather than *.jpg

Iíll try that as soon as I can!

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2019, 07:31:07 AM »
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Also worth checking the file type is one of those listed if your still struggling... I know I had a problem once with a file named *.jpeg rather than *.jpg

Ah ok! Iíll give that a try too then

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2019, 11:04:32 AM »
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So I have the LoveFish Panorama 64litre tank from p@h and it comes with a built in feature of a light connected to the filter which flashes every 28 days to remind you to change the filter insides. I had a look on the YouTube tutorial for this but it makes no sense to me?? Surely you should be leaving it alone and not changing it constantly as thatís where the good bacteria is??
Should I be changing it or leave it and ignore that part? I can link the video if itís allowed (not sure if it is, let me know)

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2019, 12:00:47 PM »
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You should absolutely leave it alone. I've disconnected my reminder light...

Be warned though that the tank doesnt actually come with proper biological media. Only the algaway pad (which compacts quickly so flow doesn't pass through efficiently) and the carbon media. I replaced everything quite quickly to a block of plain filter sponge once I learnt about proper filtration and would recommend you do the same before too far set up.

Otherwise it is actually a very good set up!

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2019, 12:09:40 PM »
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You should absolutely leave it alone. I've disconnected my reminder light...

Be warned though that the tank doesnt actually come with proper biological media. Only the algaway pad (which compacts quickly so flow doesn't pass through efficiently) and the carbon media. I replaced everything quite quickly to a block of plain filter sponge once I learnt about proper filtration and would recommend you do the same before too far set up.

Otherwise it is actually a very good set up!

Thank you! I noticed it came on last night but left it as I got in quite late after some wine aha and checked on it this morning but didnít want to do anything until I had a check with you guys

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2019, 12:13:58 PM »
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It's like printer cartridges, they are just trying to sell you more stuff!

Look up the interpret cf2 filter to see the missing cartridge. The love fish brand is knockoff versions of their stuff.

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2019, 06:44:36 PM »
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So I now have 6 otos. I floated them, then put some of the tankís water in with them, about a quarter of a cup each time with about 5-10 minutes in between. Then they were left for a bit then I used a net to get them in (I ended up pouring the water away into my sink with the net at the mouth to catch them before quickly running back to the tank). The lights were off the entire time and four seem to be happily munching on some algae while two just sat there. I also did a 25% water change as it was due. Iíd done a water sample at the shop before getting the fish and was told everything is fine apart from I think my nitrate (?) levels were a bit high - hence the big water change. I also got given some catfish pellets but Iím not sure if I should feed them to my otos. Iím gonna get some pebbles and grow some algae on them for when thereís no algae in the tank.
My wood is now sinking so Iím just gonna wait until the otos clear the algae up to put them in and I got a stack of three tubes with some green felt ornament so will put that in at the same time.
Also, once I get some more money (I spent it all today on fish 😂) Iíll be getting some more plants with some water sprite being on the top of the list as my chosen floating plant given it doesnít mind condensation, doesnít drop needles like some floating plants and doesnít get too out of control like duckweed apparently does.

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« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2019, 07:10:45 PM »
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Since you have fish, don't swap all the media at once. You do need to change the algaway pad and carbon as Matt said, just not all together. Swap one of them for a piece of sponge, then monitor ammonia and nitrite every day - and do a water change whenever you see either above zero. Any mini cycle will not last long. 6 weeks later, swap the other one, and again monitor ammonia and nitrite daily until they stay at zero by themselves.


Water sprite can grow quite big, then the old fronds start to turn brown. Just remove the old bits but check them for new plantlets growing on the old leaves before throwing them away (mine go into the compost bin)

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Re: New to fish keeping, would like some help :)
« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2019, 07:18:45 PM »
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Since you have fish, don't swap all the media at once. You do need to change the algaway pad and carbon as Matt said, just not all together. Swap one of them for a piece of sponge, then monitor ammonia and nitrite every day - and do a water change whenever you see either above zero. Any mini cycle will not last long. 6 weeks later, swap the other one, and again monitor ammonia and nitrite daily until they stay at zero by themselves.


Water sprite can grow quite big, then the old fronds start to turn brown. Just remove the old bits but check them for new plantlets growing on the old leaves before throwing them away (mine go into the compost bin)

Do I swap both for bits of sponge? And if I leave them for two weeks, will that ruin the tank? I get money then so would be helpful aha

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« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2019, 07:31:20 PM »
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Yes, you want just sponge inside the filter. Waiting won't ruin the tank, but do the first one as soon as you can. It doesn't really matter which one you swap first as long as you leave at least 6 weeks between.

Carbon adsorbs things, which means they stick to its surface rather than penetrating inside (that's absorbing). Once the carbon gets full it stop adsorbing things. This is why they tell you to change it. Yes, bacteria will also grow on the carbon - and particularly on the 'bag' part of a cartridge. Assuming the carbon is in a cartridge, when you change that one, cut a hole in the bag and throw away the carbon. Then cut the fabric off any plastic frame and put the fabric back into the filter anywhere it can touch the new sponge.

I can't find out exactly what the algaway pad does - Matt might know - but it probably absorbs something that encourages algae to grow and is aimed at people who do the minimum tank maintenance. The pad probably also gets full and stops working, which is why they tell you to change it. The pad will also grow bacteria on it, but in this case there isn't any of it you can leave in the filter.



I forgot to mention that you should not get any more fish until at least 6 weeks after you change the second one.

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« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2019, 08:03:37 PM »
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Yes, you want just sponge inside the filter. Waiting won't ruin the tank, but do the first one as soon as you can. It doesn't really matter which one you swap first as long as you leave at least 6 weeks between.

Carbon adsorbs things, which means they stick to its surface rather than penetrating inside (that's absorbing). Once the carbon gets full it stop adsorbing things. This is why they tell you to change it. Yes, bacteria will also grow on the carbon - and particularly on the 'bag' part of a cartridge. Assuming the carbon is in a cartridge, when you change that one, cut a hole in the bag and throw away the carbon. Then cut the fabric off any plastic frame and put the fabric back into the filter anywhere it can touch the new sponge.

I can't find out exactly what the algaway pad does - Matt might know - but it probably absorbs something that encourages algae to grow and is aimed at people who do the minimum tank maintenance. The pad probably also gets full and stops working, which is why they tell you to change it. The pad will also grow bacteria on it, but in this case there isn't any of it you can leave in the filter.



I forgot to mention that you should not get any more fish until at least 6 weeks after you change the second one.

So keep the carbon fabric and throw everything else, got it.
So once I change the first filter part I need to wait at least 12 weeks if I change the second part on time before getting more fish yes?

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« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2019, 08:24:13 PM »
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That's right.

The bacteria we want to grow multiply slowly. Under their ideal conditions they can double their numbers in 24 to 36 hours. But waiting 6 weeks ensures that a lot have migrated into the new media before you remove the next bit of old media.

The bacteria are fairly static. They don't just get up and wander into new media. But when you remove old media you take a lot of bacteria away with the old media so they have to make more, and a lot of the new bacteria will end up in the new media. It is then a case of waiting till they've properly bedded into the biofilm that grows all over the new media before stressing them by removing another bit of bacteria containing old media.

Getting more fish adds more ammonia to the tank, so it's best not to do that until there are enough new bacteria to deal with the ammonia from the current fish.


Getting new plants will also help as they will remove a lot of ammonia, and they don't turn it into nitrite like the bacteria do.

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« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2019, 08:52:48 PM »
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That's right.

The bacteria we want to grow multiply slowly. Under their ideal conditions they can double their numbers in 24 to 36 hours. But waiting 6 weeks ensures that a lot have migrated into the new media before you remove the next bit of old media.

The bacteria are fairly static. They don't just get up and wander into new media. But when you remove old media you take a lot of bacteria away with the old media so they have to make more, and a lot of the new bacteria will end up in the new media. It is then a case of waiting till they've properly bedded into the biofilm that grows all over the new media before stressing them by removing another bit of bacteria containing old media.

Getting more fish adds more ammonia to the tank, so it's best not to do that until there are enough new bacteria to deal with the ammonia from the current fish.


Getting new plants will also help as they will remove a lot of ammonia, and they don't turn it into nitrite like the bacteria do.

Iím planning on getting a bulk lot of plants from eBay, wondering if thatís a good idea or if individual plants would be better?

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« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2019, 10:15:00 PM »
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Nothing wrong with getting plants in bulk  :cheers:

By the way 25% is not a big water change... I do 50% every week, as do most others on here I believe. I would do another 50% water change tomorrow if your nitrates were high...

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« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2019, 10:34:09 PM »
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Nothing wrong with getting plants in bulk  :cheers:

By the way 25% is not a big water change... I do 50% every week, as do most others on here I believe. I would do another 50% water change tomorrow if your nitrates were high...

Oh wow. I thought that 10% was a standard weekly water change level!
Iíll do another 50% either tomorrow or Tuesday (Iíve got a job interview tomorrow and no idea how long itís gonna take so)

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« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2019, 12:17:51 PM »
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It used to be 10% a week, then 25% a week, now 50% or more a week is recommended. Some people still go by 10% a week, though; people you speak to and on-line. These people have not kept up to date  :)

Also daily water changes of at least 75% is recommended if the fish start to look or behave oddly. 95% of fish illness is due to poor water quality, and several large water changes can 'cure' the fish without resorting to medication.

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