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Adding Fish To The Fish Profiles

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Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« on: July 25, 2015, 08:14:08 PM »
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Has anyone noticed any gaps when using the Community Builder?

I noticed one and offered to gather the required data and have Robert add it to the site when he has the time.

I also offered to create this thread and send Robert a Word document comprising the data on any gathered species that other members want adding to the Fish Profiles.

So, please add your species as a reply in this thread.

Even if it's just the species name as a starting point, between us we could write up the profile, but if you could compose a post with all the data we need that would be even better. :)


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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2015, 08:18:15 PM »
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I'll go first:

Pygmy Cory
Corydoras pygmaeus

Behaviour Peaceful, shoaling, scavenger
Typical size 2cm
Max size 3cm
Tank Area Bottom, middle
Min Tank Size 45cm
Min Number 4
Temp Min: 22℃ Max: 26℃
Feeding Sinking, wafers, live, frozen foods
pH Range 5.5 to 8.5
Hardness vs,s,m,h,vh


Because of their small stature this little catfish is a popular choice for smaller community tanks. It will make a fine addition to a larger tank too as long as you take care when selecting tank mates, avoiding larger fish as the Pygmy Cory can be intimidated and may be out-competed for food. Some species would also find it just the right size for a snack too! Unlike most Corys this species cannot be considered a bottom dwelling scavenger. This Cory is just as likely to be found swimming midwater or resting on a piece of bogwood as scavenging on the substrate. All members of the Coryadoras family are air breathers, so you will often see them dart to the surface to take in gulps of air.
 
Family Callichthyidae (Callichthyid armored catfishes) | Origin South America; Brazil | Breeding Egg clutches | Natural Water Conditions pH 6.5-7.5, soft to hard | Natural Habitat Small streams and pools | Sexing Females are larger and more rounded





common_name Pygmy Cory
scientific_name Corydoras pygmaeus
main_text Because of their small stature this little catfish is a popular choice for smaller community tanks. It will make a fine addition to a larger tank too as long as you take care when selecting tank mates, avoiding larger fish as the Pygmy Cory can be intimidated and may be out-competed for food. Some species would also find it just the right size for a snack too! Unlike most Corys this species cannot be considered a bottom dwelling scavenger. This Cory is just as likely to be found swimming midwater or resting on a piece of bogwood as scavenging on the substrate. All members of the Coryadoras family are air breathers, so you will often see them dart to the surface to take in gulps of air.

family Callichthyidae (Callichthyid armored catfishes)
origin South America; Brazil
natural_habitat Small streams and pools
natural_water_conditions pH 6.5-7.5, soft to hard
max_size 3
max_tankmate_size 10
feeding Sinking, wafers, live, frozen foods
ph 5.5 to 8.5
water_hardness vs,s,m,h,vh
min_number 4
max_number
min_temperature 22℃
max_temperature 26℃
min_tank_size 45cm
behaviour Peaceful, shoaling, scavenger
breeding Egg clutches
sexing Females are larger and more rounded

bottom_feeder  1
surface_dweller   0
shoaling  1
fin_nipper  0
territorial  0
plant_friendly
suitable_for_beginner  1
south_american  1
rift_lake  0
african 0
south_east_asian  0
asian  0
australian   0

size_0_5 1
size_5_10 0
size_10_15  0
size_16_up  0

exclude_from_cc  0

Not sure about the following:

code   
type_id
slug   
meta_code 
map_image   
main_image 
allow_too_large
undefined_1
undefined_2
undefined_3



Relevant Fish type/s

Freshwater
Tropical
Catfish
Catfish (Corydoras)

Conflicts - larger fish might eat :)

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2015, 10:10:50 AM »
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This looks good. Just a couple of suggestions for your one:
* I'd say that the pygmy cories, because of the way that they cover lower and middle areas, flitting from substrate to plants, need at least a 45cm base.
* spelling of pygmy cories would need fixed (sorry)

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2015, 10:24:11 AM »
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I agree, both Extreme_One's post and fcmf's points.

I had also better ask about the photo - is it one of yours or one found on-line? I'm thinking copyright issues.



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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2015, 11:53:36 AM »
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This looks good. Just a couple of suggestions for your one:
* I'd say that the pygmy cories, because of the way that they cover lower and middle areas, flitting from substrate to plants, need at least a 45cm base.
* spelling of pygmy cories would need fixed (sorry)

Thank you. I'll edit accordingly.  :cheers:

I agree, both Extreme_One's post and fcmf's points.

I had also better ask about the photo - is it one of yours or one found on-line? I'm thinking copyright issues.

Good point Sue. It is one I found online, but I ensured it is labeled as allowed for reuse.

When searching Google images you need to change the Usage Rights filter to 'Labeled for reuse"

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 11:59:22 AM »
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You know what you are doing but other people might not. I'll check about any photos in future posts.

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2015, 12:16:38 PM »
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You know what you are doing but other people might not. I'll check about any photos in future posts.

Good idea. Any photos we're unsure about can be substituted.

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2015, 04:08:06 PM »
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There are also some fields that are required that do not display on the fish profile. These are required for the Community Creator. I don't know what they are; Robert would need to provide the info.

Fish Community Creator Tanks - Assess Tankmate Suitability Tool
Angelfish (1) - Panda Cory (10) - Harlequin Rasbora (10) - Otocinclus (10) - Japonica Shrimp (10) - Honey Gourami (10) - Galaxy Rasbora (10) -
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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2015, 10:30:04 AM »
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Great idea extreme_one, I'm in the process of moving house so apols for the delay in responding.

I've just opened the admin panel and investigated the db structure and Steve's right.

There's a bundle of fields for fish alone and then another bunch for the conflicts and then a few more for tank size, substrate etc.

It's terribly clunky and takes an age to add new fish.


Here are the fish fields

id   common_name   scientific_name   main_text   family   synonyms   other_names
   origin   natural_habitat   natural_water_conditions   max_size   max_tankmate_size   feeding   tank_area   ph   water_hardness   
min_number   max_number   min_temperature   max_temperature   min_tank_size   behaviour   breeding   
sexing   algae_eater   bottom_feeder   surface_dweller   shoaling   fin_nipper   territorial   plant_friendly   
suitable_for_beginner   south_american   rift_lake   african   south_east_asian   asian   australian   
size_0_5   size_5_10   size_10_15   size_16_up   undefined_1   undefined_2   undefined_3   code   
type_id   slug    meta_code   map_image   main_image   exclude_from_cc   allow_too_large


 Fish types

Freshwater
Tropical
Artic
Artic2
River
Barbs
Catfish
Catfish (Corydoras)
Catfish (Synodontis)
Characins (Including Tetras)
Cichlids
Cichlids (Dwarf)
Cichlids (Rift Lake)
Anabantoids (Including Gouramies)
Livebearers
Loaches & similar
Oddballs
Rainbowfish
Rasboras, Danios & Minnows
Freshwater Inverts
Coldwater
Unknown

Tank filter and multiplier

name   multiplier
Undergravel   0.8
Internal   1
Oversized Internal   1.2
External   1.6
Oversized External   1.8

and then you have to add the various conflicts, so spot on knowledge is essential.

As you might concur, with all those fields it's quite a task just to add one fish and has to be 100% factual, else people will pick out discrepancies and or argue around the details too!

Happy to add that fish you've supplied as above, but perhaps the addition of lots and lots of new fish is perhaps a tad ambitious given time constraints and what not.


I can definitely edit fish, so maybe as an interim compromise if anyone's seeing huge discrepancies then let me know and I'll correct them.

What I am also going to try and do (another suggestion from Simon) is to integrate a link in our profiles to your tank set ups in the community creator  -  There maybe a challenge or two as the databases and usernames are separate systems. If a person's username or email address on the forum doesn't match their email address on the community creator then...i'm pretty stuffed for linking them. That said,  I am whirling it around in my head, and I don't like to concede defeat. I've just got to wait for a eureka moment!

I will also try and unite the two sign up and login systems (forums and cc)  at some point,but it's a lot of coding and I don't know whether the value created is necessarily worth the pain involved in making it happen. Does anyone have a spare 50 hours I could borrow!?

Ok, I have to go and strip wallpaper now :( But I hope it's given you all some food for thought - meantime, if someone wants to draw up a list of fish that have the wrong sizes or conflicts or whatever else, then please do let me know and I'll edit them when we have a completed list.

Thanks all,I hope that helps! :cheers:

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Clown Barb (5) - Banded Rainbowfish (2) - Bolivian Ram (4) - Angelfish (1) - Checkered Barb (18) - African Red Eye (4) - Cherry Barb (6) - Neon Tetra (8) - Golden Panchax (1) -
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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2015, 10:59:15 AM »
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Thanks for the feedback Robert. That's a lot of info for one fish!

I'll go through all those DB fields later and ensure that the Pigmy Cory has the required info for you.
I've edited the OP and hopefully provided enough info for this species to be added to the site. No hurry! Good luck with the house move. :)

Please let me know if anything else is needed.

I agree, adding loads of fish will be too time consuming, especially given your current home situation.

TBH it's not like there are loads of gaps anyway.


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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2015, 08:10:34 AM »
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Just a thought. I wonder if the Celestial Pearl Danio and the Galaxy Rasbora should be switched.

I mean, at present the Galaxy Rasbora can be added to a tank in the CC and the Celestial Pearl Danio can't, however the correct name is the Celestial Pearl Danio.

http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish/celestial-pearl-danio.html
http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish/galaxy-rasbora.html

Also, if the second photo on the Galaxy Rasbora entry were added to the Celestial Pearl Danio entry, that would be good too.

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2015, 09:35:48 AM »
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It was me that got Robert to put cpds in back last year. He wanted to keep both names as they are both still in use in shops and a lot of literature from when they were first discovered use galaxy rasbora.

Maybe when he has time we'll ask him to swap the profiles over, having cpd as the one that can be entered in the CC with a link to galaxy rasbora in case any newcomers read articles with that name.

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2015, 11:14:05 AM »
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 :yikes: Aaaaagh! Nobody fcmf mentioned the fact that I'd spelt Pygmy Incorrectly! OOPS!  :vcross:

Now corrected in OP

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 12:45:40 PM »
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* spelling of pygmy cories would need fixed (sorry)

Actually, someone did  ;D

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Re: Adding fish to the Fish Profiles
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2015, 01:07:32 PM »
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* spelling of pygmy cories would need fixed (sorry)

Actually, someone did  ;D

:-[ Hanging my head in shame!

Sorry fcmf I even acknowledged it at the time.

Must be getting old in my confused age.  :isay:

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